[lit-ideas] Transilvania
- From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:09:17 EST
The first document in which the Medieval Latin term Ultra siluam ("beyond
the forest") is used in reference to the area dates from 1075. The term Partes
Transsylvanæ ("parts beyond the forest") dates from the same century (used in
Legenda Sancti Gerhardi, and subsequently, as Transsilvania by Medieval Latin
documents compiled in the Kingdom of Hungary).
Of course in good Romance (Romanian, Italian, etc.) we don't need to double
the /s/ and it becomes as per header.
In a message dated 3/3/2009 2:44:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Ursula@xxxxxxxxxx writes:
Canadian was my first citizenship.
(Although I might look into getting dual citizenship with Romania (where
my father is from)).
That gets you an EU friendly pasport, don't you know....
----
I do, as I do hold the Italian one -- but then I _was_ born at the "Hospital
Italiano" of La Plata! (not far from the Italian Consulate) --, and it is
very good to have an EU friendly passport, as you write.
>More than you wanted to know
Not really, as I now want to know where your *mother*'s side of the family
originates. I assume Stange is married name then?
It was veryromantic of you to say of the Transylvanian parentage. So that's
Romanian. So I will assume that your mother is German parentage, as I think
you said. (It has to be from some place other than Austria as you said she
'ended up' there -- could well be Hungary -- cfr. V. Caley, and thanks for the
info, too).
An astrologer of some fame in Buenos Aires, by the name of Lilly Sullos (u
with umlaut) is always talking about Transylvania, where she comes from.
I own one book on Romance linguistics (by Elcock, London, Faber) but I
cannot say I remember much about the chapter on Romanian!
Very romantic of you too to live on North Bay. I would think it's very
relaxing to live on the edge of a lake.
So now I see that the Romanian Ursula is really 'little bear' of course.
Cfr. Ursula Anders, from Switzerland.
Wanted to impress with some etymological search on the word, but google led
me to this rather obtuse one:
>Etymology - Origin of County Name
>It's name is derived from the Latin words, trans meaning "across" and sylva
meaning "woods."
and they mean North Carolina...
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La Recoleta C1124AAE,
Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Country:
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Provincia de Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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