In a message dated 9/29/2004 8:28:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, Henninge@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: The Germans, "Respekt!" I would almost say, I believe with Kant, that it is the most natural thing in the world to acknowledge the talent of another, but Kant puts in words the source of this feeling of "naturalness": it is this Achtung, respect, and more specifically, *respect for the law*, "the consciousness of the immediate subordination of my will to a law and its determination by it. . . . [This] respect extends not only to the law itself, but to everything we think in accordance with it, as legal and moral or as the object of the law of one's duties, for example, dutiful actions; to rights; to law-abiding or even _talented_ persons (my emphasis), to the extent that we ascribe the development of their abilities _to the legal use of their freedom_ (m.e.); to our own (Selbstschätzung [self-esteem]) and to any other free and reasonable being." ---- There is a fascinating book on this by Jerome K. Jerome, Three men on a bummell (his presequel to Three men in a boat). Set in Germany, they find a nice old lady who won't cross a park because "there is a law forbidding it", even though there is nobody to _see_ her violating the norm. I don't have the book with me, but I can always misquote it. In any case, Jerome was working with that assumption that all Germans are Kantian (and all Kantians are German -- the Henning Convertible Rule). Cheers, JL ---- Set ten years later than Three Men in a Boat it tells of a cycling expedition through the Black Forest. The three fearless friends introduced in Three Men in a Boat decide to take a cycling trip through the Black Forest and end up in a series of misadventures even more hilarious than their previous. 5 cassettes. A "bummel" is a journey without end. Whether we want to or not, most of us have to settle with a return to our regular exertions. So do these heroes of THREE MEN IN A BOAT, only on this occasion, a cycling trip through the Black Forest, it seems they may cycle on forever, such are their problems. Whether it's George attempting to buy a cushion for his aunt or Harris's harrowing experience with a road-waterer, not to mention the routine problems with language and directions, things get very confused indeed! "A delightful excursion in a world which, alas, exists no longer--and indeed may only have been found in the author's lively imagination." (B-O-T Editorial Review Board) Humorous tales of cycling the Black Forest -- I read this book--which I assume is a fictionalized account of an actual journay--after having spent a year in Germany and I bemused by the fact that the Germans that Jerome K. Jerome characterizes in this book (published in 1900) are very similar to those of the present day. Added to this, is the fact that the book is mainly set in the Black Forest region of Germany, which is where I stayed. So not only was this book humorous and entertaining, it rekindled fond memories as well. The writing I fear will disillusion the more casual reader, but for those who have the inclination, this book is a very worthwhile read. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html