Eric Dean wrote: "Could you elaborate a bit? I read the passage you quote from Habermas as a more nuanced version of what Eric Yost was saying. Is that how you read it or am I missing something? When you wrote "...a more nuanced account from Habermas..." I was expecting the passage you quoted to be affirming/elaborating Walter's position." The passage both affirms and elaborates Walter's position, as he confirms himself. What I hoped, by providing the quote, was to show that transcendental arguments need not necessarily be, as Eric claimed, a "sly power grab, the looming, the looking down upon, the lording it over." Instead, they are very much grounded in and dependent on human life. Eric: "Also, I don't understand "...here he is in accord with the Master" -- who's the Master you're referring to, Kant?" Yes, I was referring to Kant. Sincerely, Phil Enns Yogyakarta, Indonesia ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html