[lit-ideas] Re: The flu

Thursday, November 25, 2004, 8:33:28 AM, Teemu Pyyluoma wrote:


TP> --- Judy Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> the extra 19  months for us is a con: we all have
>> National Insurance cards.
>>
TP> OK. Just teasing you about the ignorance thing, I
TP> didn't know either until I hit the Finnish Insurance
TP> site...


Teemu! you are a rotter! (isn't that a wonderful English term? I bet no-one 
uses it now)

>> The wording of the UK document suggests strongly 
>> that trips to Europe to jump a queue here are not 
>> what this is about!
>>
TP> That there is a queue for some type of operation is
TP> simply bad management and doesn't even save any costs,

The current queues were indeed largely created by bad management: managers were 
appointed to run the NHS health districts (but I won't continue, I would get 
too angry).  However resources are involved to an extent. 



TP> Swedes figured this out and instituted maximum wait
TP> times, other Nordic countries are following.

That will happen here once the court case makes an impact. Meanwhile Blair has 
moved to cut waiting lists in England. Wales remains a problem.

 But
TP> anyway, yes, the current EC treaties explicitly deny
TP> treatment in cases where the sole purpose of traveling
TP> is to get the said treatment in another country.


right

 I
TP> should've been clearer, the thing about in effect
TP> out-sourced healthcare is my personal speculation,
TP> although I'm pretty sure this will become common in
TP> few years for reasons I stated previously, and I
TP> expect health insurers to be the ones pushing it.

I see -- yes -- but our NHS is not insurance-based so if health insurers here 
pushed it, and I can see why they would (they have not yet) only people with 
private health insurance would be able to use the "out-sourced" care.

TP> Indians are already promoting Medical Tourism, see
TP> http://www.garamchai.com/MedicalTourism.htm 


Yes -- some people from here have gone there.  I am slightly unhappy about this 
as doctors in India are, Indian doctors here tell me, relatively poorly paid 
and over-worked; so it is exploitative.  I would lower our doctors' pay, but 
that's a utopian suggestion!


(whose
TP> friend was it that was training to become an x-ray
TP> operator because it can't be outsourced?)

!! -- they will outsource the reading of the x-rays


 



-- 
 Judy Evans, Cardiff, UK   
mailto:judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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