[lit-ideas] Re: The Yamulkah of Evil?
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "lit-ideas" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 17:05:50 -0400
> [Original Message]
> From: Steven G. Cameron <stevecam@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 5/13/2006 3:18:43 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The Yamulkah of Evil?
>
>
> Andy Amago wrote:
>
> > I understand. I meant it in the context of little Democratic JKF-loving
> > (he actually came to the town), working class, mixed race Belleville in
the
> > U.S.A. The town would never have stood for it.
>
> **Impossible to judge (at this distance) whether you're naive or
> deliberately disingenuous. After hearing of students assaulting the
> arab cafeteria workers at my university, in the week following 9/11, all
> four of my classes were delivered the sternest lecture by me forbidding
> such behaviour. Even now, thirty some odd years later, it's difficult
> for me to believe that anyone would have stayed Belleville citizen's mob
> violence -- had anyone truly chosen to attack the few Jews who lived
> there...
>
Well, then it isn't anti-Semitism in particular but just anti. How about
anti-womanism, or anti-Irish-ism or anti-Catholic-ism or anti-Black or
anti-something else. Lawrence is always carrying on that Muslims are going
to invade and take over and eat babies or whatever Muslims do. Jews here
have the same opportunities as gentiles. Top level corporate jobs are
closed to everybody except those in the network, including gentiles.
> > I think by now you know
> > how I feel about humanity and about religion. The two can be a lethal
> > combination, and I can see how you can be traumatized, as far as I can
see,
> > there's no real anti-Semitism in the U.S. Religion is so extremely
popular
> > no matter where one goes. I don't get it, but that's just me I guess.
>
> **Must be nice to live in your cocoon. However, anti-Semitism is
> unfortunately still alive and well -- rearing its ugly head -- not too
> long ago, here in Chatham.
>
That may be, whatever the anti-Semitism looks like, I don't know. But, the
U.S. is a pretty level playing field for just about everybody. Nobody
stopped you from living in Chatham, right? Everything is in the attitude,
and that goes back to what we're taught in our families. BTW, teaching
someone that they're superior to everyone is the flip side of teaching
someone they're inferior. Both positions are outside the mainstream. If
there was a temple where atheists got together, there would be anti-atheist
acts too. People are just evil, that's the bottom line. Tell me they
aren't. Ultimately, what makes the U.S. different is that we don't have
state-sponsored terror, that's they important thing.
> TC,
>
> /Steve Cameron, NJ
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>[Original Message]
> >>From: Steven G. Cameron <stevecam@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Date: 5/13/2006 12:13:37 PM
> >>Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The Yamulkah of Evil?
> >>
> >>
> >>Andy Amago wrote:
> >>
> >>>Individual nutcases are everywhere. The signs obviously didn't mean
> >>>anything.
> >>
> >>**You mean, to you, Irene, to you. "Nutcases" have been know to act on,
> >>to execute their (not completely thought out) initiatives. Yours is
> >>either an insensitive and/or perhaps supercilious response, Irene. At
> >>the time -- to me -- it seemed quite near, rather threatening. The
> >>image of someone "burning" me wasn't appealing... at all...
> >>
> >>TC,
> >>
> >>/Steve Cameron, NJ
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>[Original Message]
> >>>>From: Steven G. Cameron <stevecam@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>Date: 5/13/2006 10:13:09 AM
> >>>>Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The Yamulkah of Evil?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>**No longer recall the names of the streets (haven't been back there
> >>>>since 1976, except to take my wife to Nanina's in the Park, one
evening
> >>>>for dinner) -- but the two signs that come to mind were a block or so
> >>>
> >>>>from the gas stations in town... A few people had the same signs
taped
> >>>
> >>>>to the windows of their cars -- noticed while waiting on those
> >>>>interminably long lines -- at the same gas stations.
> >>>>
> >>>>TC,
> >>>>
> >>>>/Steve Cameron, NJ
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Andy Amago wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Where in Belleville were these signs posted? Washington Avenue,
> >>>
> >>>Franklin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>Avenue? I have friends in Belleville, I'd like to ask if they
> >>>
> >>>remember.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>[Original Message]
> >>>>>>From: Steven G. Cameron <stevecam@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>Date: 5/11/2006 4:32:10 PM
> >>>>>>Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The Yamulkah of Evil?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Eric Yost wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>more nicey-nice from those poor ole Mullah thugs...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>**Yeah.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>**Even the usual anti-Semites, anti-Israelis, and/or anti-Semites,
> >
> > can
> >
> >>>>>>see through the obviously planned tactic of: "Sure. We'll trade you
> >>>>>>Jew's lives for ending our atom-bomb program..."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>**Echoes of some 1973 signs in my Belleville, NJ neighborhood which
> >>>>>>read: "Burn Jews, not oil" -- now replaced with, perhaps: "Give up
> >
> > your
> >
> >>>>>>Jews, we'll give you stability in the ME (and oil -- lower gasoline
> >>>>>>prices)!!"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>TC,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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