[lit-ideas] Re: The Welfare State vs the Individual

  • From: "John McCreery" <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 16:34:54 +0900

Lawrence,

You have provided a textbook example of swallowing right-wing talking
points whole.


So you are willing to put up with less liberty if Welfare entitlements are more extended and pervasive.


Let's see now, I live in a nation with national health care and strict gun and drug laws. So my recent prostate exam (clean bill of health by the way) cost me less than US$30, and while we're not as tough and agile as we used to be, my wife and I feel safe walking virtually anywhere in the city where we live. Freedom of speech, assembly, guarantees against unlawful search and seizure, no one prying into our religious or sexual preferences, the right to own property and start a business and enjoy a tax regime that is far more easy on the small proprietor than the IRS insanity our friends in the U.S.A. endure...got all that. Looks to me like you've created a straw man or know little about what you're talking about.



Consider the idea of people being able to invest their social security money (liberty) being opposed by welfare oriented politicians (order). What about being able to choose; so that those who won't to invest their money can, but those who don't have to? The welfare contingent opposed that as well. They don't trust ordinary people to do the right thing. They don't want them to have the liberty to make that sort of choice because they are higher up the welfare hierarchy and know what is best for the common people. This is an example but I don't think it is an unfair example.


The main difference is that some of us have enough to invest and financial advisors to help us make sound decisions (like the one that put me into that hedge fund that tripled in value I mentioned). The number of people I know who know enough to play the markets on their own and enjoy actually doing so is relatively small. That's why, before Social Security, the majority of old folks lived below the poverty line. Social Security addresses that issue and has done so quite successfully.


Now as to American poverty, I have been reading lately about how poorly the European countries are doing economically compared to America, but guaranteeing more entitlements their over-all economy doesn't fair as well as America's. Thus, the unemployment rate is consistently better than the European unemployment rate. I have done most of my research on France; which rarely has an unemployment rate below 10%, but Europe as a whole has a worse unemployment rate. I don't recall how well Sweden, Denmark & Norway compare to the U.S. The current unemployment rate in the U.S. is about 4.5% which is considered full employment for some reason I can't recall.


Oh yes, the gross indicators for the U.S. economy are rising, including the GINI coefficient that measures the spread between the highest and lowest incomes. Some of us are doing very well, indeed. But the median income of ordinary American workers is falling in real terms, over 40 million of us have no health insurance, too many kids are growing up in bad third-world conditions. The rich are getting richer and the poor? They're screwed.

This isn't to say that Europe doesn't have problems. But I've traveled
enough to know that life there can be very pleasant. You rant about
liberty, but a Frenchman with six weeks vacation a year quite properly
thinks that his American counterpart chained to his ratrace job is a
slave without the job security.




The agencies that actually track poverty don't consider the relatively poor
in the U.S. to fit into their statistics.  Our GDP per person was the
highest in the world except for a couple of small countries – I think
Luxembourg was one – can't recall the other.


See above. If you organize a society like a basketball league in which Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls are constantly playing pickup teams, no doubt about it, the totals scored will be astronomical. But winner take all is not only nasty....it's boooring. Sports leagues do it right, giving losing teams the first draft picks to keep the game interesting. (An estate tax that prevents the endless perpetuation of great fortunes serves much the same function.)


What economists are seeing is that our increased liberty encourages entrepreneurs more than in nations where the emphasis is upon entitlement. Thus, other nations, even European nations, have difficulty competing with us.

Competing with who? Last time I looked Ford and GM were near bankruptcy while Toyota and Honda, home-based in one of those less-free-but-a-bit-more-caring societies you can't seem to get your head around are doing real well. China and India are already graduating more engineers every year than we are, have plenty of entrepreneurs and plenty of cheap labor, too. And you'd be surprised how many "American" companies turn out to be owned lock, stock and barrel by, oh dear, Europeans? (Food Lion, for example, is a Belgian company.)





Now we do have some enclaves here and there where people have difficulty
getting off welfare and getting jobs, but that situation is worse in Europe
especially among the immigrants (read Muslim immigrants).  In some European
cities above 40% of the immigrant men of working age are unemployed.

This bit is, unfortunately, true. Systems in which the majority are
guaranteed jobs and comfortable retirements don't cope well with
newcomers, either their own young or immigrants, and especially with
immigrants.



All evidence points to increased economic liberty being better at providing higher percentages of GDP per person than more oversight and guaranteed entitlements enabled by increased taxes.


But, as indicated above, higher GDP per capita doesn't mean shit if GDP distribution is radically unequal. In the words of that lefto-pinko-doesn't-know-what-he's-talking-about world-famous financial commentator Lou Dobbs: "Profit doesn't equal prosperity."


I think we're going to have to move you closer to the order end of the spectrum and me closer to the liberty end.


Me, I'd call it the civilized end and the war of all against all.

John
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