[lit-ideas] Re: The Surgical Strike Option
- From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 12:01:04 -0800
I just did. Did you miss it?
Kant's Categorical Imperative urged us to act upon maxims which can be
accepted as universal laws of nature. If someone argues that we ought not
to bomb Iran's nuclear sites because we might at the same time harm
moms/dads/little kids, then if this is treated as a categorical Imperative
we should be able to apply it to all such bombings.
I don't think Marlena intended the moms/dads/little kids to be a show
stopper, but then why throw it out there? Our purpose is to war upon
enemies when we deem it absolutely necessary. We seek to engage in just
wars. We seek to minimize collateral damage.
Lawrence
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When may we expect you to apply it?
Cheers, Walter
Walter C. Okshevsky
Memorial University
Quoting Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> I fail to see the reasonableness of the moms/dads/little kids argument.
> Applying Kant's categorical imperative to this argument, we must face the
> following:
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> We should not retaliate against the Japanese who attacked us on December
12,
> 1941 because moms/dads/little kids will eventually be killed.
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> We should not help the British against the Germans in WWII because German
> moms/dads/little kids will eventually be killed.
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> We should not go after Al Quaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan because
> moms/dads/little kids will also be killed.
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> In fact something just the opposite seems to be operative. We are
outraged
> because they came after our moms/dads/little kids; so we retaliate.
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> With the doctrine of preemption, we become convinced that a nation or
> paramilitary force will harm our moms/dads/little kids unless we engage in
> preemption.
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> Lawrence
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> On Behalf Of Eric Yost
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:42 AM
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [lit-ideas] The Surgical Strike Option
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> Marlena: I imagine we'll be told they are
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> 'surgical strikes'...but they'll be as
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> surgical as the ones in Iraq are/have been--and
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> lots of moms/dads/little kids are
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> going to be hurt/killed/maimed.
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> Eric: Despite the obvious need to debate the
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> ethics of the Iranians using their population as a
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> human shield for nuke sites, as well as the ethics
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> of striking versus not striking...here's some
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> information about the likely area:
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> [http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/week/040812.htm]
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> Natanz--250 kms south of Tehran--is a nuclear
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> facility, the previously secret existence of which
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> was disclosed by the National Council of
>
> Resistance of Iran (NCRI) an Iranian opposition
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> group in August 15, 2002.[19] Satellite imagery
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> made available in December 2002 indicated that
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> Natanz may be used as a gas centrifuge facility
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> for uranium enrichment.
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> Looking at the photo in the Telegraph article
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> Lawrence cited gives no clue about the population
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> of the area around Natanz. I was reduced to
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> looking on mapquest ("Find great hotel deals in
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> Natanz Iran!") and it showed no towns or cities
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> near Natanz, the closest being a place called
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> Mahabad, about 15 miles away. But what does
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> Mapquest know?
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> Anyone know how to find about the moms/dads/little
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> kids resident in Natanz? There are about 300
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> people working in the Bushehr Reactor site, and
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> probably no little children. Both appear isolated,
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> as opposed to the sites located in medium- and
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> large-size cities.
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