So, past some homo-erotic mythologising (which incedentally sound extremely Freudish if you get my meaning), you have no real reason for believing that those on the left of this list might 'like' Saddam Hussein. And by projecting this gun-toting image, an image which clearly belies the tree-hugging, peace-loving creation that you also like to impose upon those on the left, do you perhaps get a kick of some kind. Of course, the irony is that Saddam was a creation not of the left, but of the right. He was armed and financed to fight the Iranian Fundamentalists (with chemical weapons no less), feted while the time was right, cheered on from the sidelines in a scheme that seemed so much more productive than some Peanut farmer's notion of force projection, until that is it all went belly up and he who was once a gun-toting puppet suddenly became the vicious villain. And now it's obvious that all along this was a hero of the left, and not a child of the right at all. Another example, we must suppose, of neo-con revisionism. Just like a peace-loving Napoleon or a defence-minded third reich. Has nobody explained that to re-write history you must first be the victor. Simon Ward Nobody Else ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:04 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The Strident Voice of Defeat Well yes, there's that, and the fact He's enormously attractive to these . . . He's no Tom Cruise, of course, But Cruise is a wimp when it comes to Oozing self-confidence the way He did firing the AK into the air Not caring where the bullet lands Though each year police warn Us it has to land some place And unless you're dictator of the Whole damned thing if someone Looks up and gets a bullet in the eye Someone's going to come looking For you and it won't be him Because they hanged him And now there's no one Exemplifying the hero Carlyle Admired and Nietzsche lauded, No one to tell this generation Of spoiled brats, brats encouraged To do and say whatever they liked You can't do or say that here While I am looking at you, Don't you know? Discipline That's what Simon . . . He never had it and Saddam Provided it running out his eyes And down his sleeves To hands that never doubted And never paused and never Came to the end of what He knew until that evil empire The USA not satisfied with taking Away the USSR sent their Technological but inhuman Robotic tentacles over there To touch his sacred soul. Allahu Akhbar if you have The sense to know it. Sigmund Helmenfreud -----Original Message----- From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Yost Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 12:38 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The Strident Voice of Defeat >>So Sigmund, why do we all like Saddam so much? I can't speak for Lawrence or for you guys, but ... Today I received my diagnosis: My anti-ego connects to my will-to-live by a type of elan vital that uses rage and the blues to express short-term desire as products of the imagination which heighten self-discipline when my Vitamin-B level drops to the point that I have to dance all night. As a result, seizing opportunities triggers indecisive parti pris or false exterioception when a simple yes-or-no would do or assertive foreknowledge make relaxing an art. In no uncertain terms I was told either to try to worry more or lapse into iconic states that trigger poetic indicants of narcissism which can only be ameliorated behaviorally--which is to say not at all--in the grudging awareness of undiagnosed others. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html