========Original Message======== Subj: [lit-ideas] The Strident Voice of Defeat Date: 1/11/2007 1:59:06 P.M. Central Standard Time From: _lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx) To: _Lit-Ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:Lit-Ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent on: I noticed quite a long time ago in Islamic theology that they believe God decides who wins a battle or a war. I also noticed that American politicians were paying little attention to that. During the Bush Sr. & Clinton Administrations the U.S. gave various Islamic groups reason to claim victory. Whether it was Al Qaeda or Saddam’s Iraq, they were encouraged and exerted themselves even more because Allah was on their side. Allah had given them the victory. We need to be especially careful of that now in Iraq. As Thomas Barnett said in the interview Brian posted, if we don’t do it right, we shall very likely have to go back. I’ve been reading the Brian-recommended The Looming Tower, Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11 by Lawrence Wright. Wright provides an excellent example of how defeat is viewed. On page 38 Wright writes, “. . . The speed and decisiveness of the Israeli victory in the Six Day War humiliated many Muslims who had believed until then that God favored their cause. They had lost not only their armies and their territories but also faith in their leaders, in their countries, and in themselves. The profound appeal of Islamic fundamentalism in Egypt and elsewhere was born in this shocking debacle. A newly strident voice was heard in the mosques; the voice said that they had been defeated by a force far larger than the tiny country of Israel. God had turned against the Muslims. The only way back to Him was to return to the pure religion. The voice answered despair with a simple formulation: Islam is the solution. “ “. . . The primary target of Egyptian Islamists was Nasser’s secular regime. In the terminology of jihad, the priority was defeating the ‘near enemy’ – that is, impure Muslim society. The ‘distant enemy’ – the West – could wait until Islam had reformed itself. To Zawahiri and his colleagues that meant, at a minimum, imposing Islamic law in Egypt. “Zawahiri also sought to restore the caliphate, the rule of Islamic clerics, which had formally ended in 1924 following the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire but which had not exercised real power since the thirteenth century. Once the caliphate was established, Zawahiri believed, Egypt would become a rallying point for the rest of the Islamic world, leading it in a jihad against the West. ‘Then history would make a new turn, God willing,’ Zawahiri later wrote, ‘in the opposite direction against the empire of the United States and the world’s Jewish government.’” The Schmoos slogan, the more Islamists we kill, the more we create is of course nonsense. There is nothing like that in Islamic tradition. If we kill the Militant Islamic enemy and in the process defeat him, then Allah has somehow allowed this. It is inconceivable to them that Allah would favor infidels, so there must be some other reason. A variety of other reasons have been produced but the one we are most concerned about is the reasoning of Islamic Fundamentalism. Islamic Fundamentalists argue that the less than orthodox Muslims who were defeated deserved to be defeated. The way to achieve victory is to return to pure religion. What we see now in Iraq are many who fancy they adhere to Pure Religion fighting against us and our protégées in the new Iraqi state. Yeah, it’s expensive but we need to tread carefully now. If when we leave, the Islamic Fundamentalists can declare victory, that is if we don’t leave the present Iraqi government in a very strong position, then we shall be buying trouble for ourselves. As Barnett suggests, we shall probably have to go back again. We won’t save money by leaving prematurely. Lawrence