[lit-ideas] Re: The Order of Aurality (ratification of fiction?)

That very (red/green) thing is why I've never understood what exactly
color-blindness *is* and how it's identified/diagnosed.

Julie Krueger




On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Walter C. Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx>wrote:

> Yes, specifying the colours serves to focus the question more clearly. But
> my
> epistemological conundrum remains.
>
> Imagine: What everybody calls and sees as "red," Walter sees as "green" but
> calls it "red" because everybody else does. And what everybody calls and
> sees
> "green" Walter sees and calls "red" because everybody else does. (Go
> figure,
> Robert Brandom.) In this scenario, which is logically and empirically
> possible,
> there does not seem to be a way of detecting this visual and linguistic
> discrepancy. But it remains an actual possibility. Perhaps something like
> Quine's "gavagai" example?
>
> Hoping that Dan soon learns you your coulours, Walter
>
> P.S. Re Palin/Obama: She's probably thinking she can get Obama to roll his
> eyes
> upwards a sufficient number of times during the debate to win it. If it
> worked
> for Al Gore vs George W, why not for her?
>
>
> Quoting Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
> > Sorry -- sent privately when I intended to send to the list.  That seems
> to
> > be the thing to do today.
> >
> > Julie Krueger
> >
> > Odd.  Just today I had a conversational todo when I asked Dan if he liked
> > the new blue sheets.  He asked where they were.  On the bed.  The gray
> > sheets?, he says.  No, the blue sheets currently on the bed, says I.
> >
> > I understand there are lots of nuances of colors, hues, shades, tones,
> and
> > other such vagaries out there.  I should have said that I would be
> > surprised if any child two years of age didn't know basic primary and
> > secondary colors -- red, blue, yellow, green, orange, purple.
> >
> > On a totally unrelated note, Palin has challenged Obama to a debate....
>  I
> > don't even know what to DO with that thought.
> >
> > Julie Krueger
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Walter C. Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx
> >wrote:
> >
> > > My wife insists that what I call "pale blue" is actually "grey." And
> she's
> > > quite
> > > amazed at how consistently I make that mistake. I'm equally amazed by
> the
> > > fact
> > > that what she sees as "grey" is actually "pale blue." Now I ask you,
> who
> > > here
> > > really "knows" their colours and who is mistaken? And don't forget
> that in
> > > Montreal, drivers understand that "yellow" is "green but be quick about
> > > it."
> > >
> > > Walter O
> > > MUN
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > >
> > > > In my experience, children much, MUCH younger than 7 know their
> colors.
> > > >  I'm surprised if children who are two don't.
> > > >
> > > > Julie Krueger
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Why not?
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   *From:* Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > *To:* lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2012 8:41 PM
> > > > > *Subject:* [lit-ideas] Re: The Order of Aurality (ratification of
> > > > > fiction?)
> > > > >
> > > > > Surely you didn't mean to say quite this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Julie Krueger
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think abstract reasoning kicks in about at about age seven or so.
> > >  Does
> > > > > a child that young even know colors?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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