[lit-ideas] Re: The Order of Aurality (ratification of fiction?)

Yes, specifying the colours serves to focus the question more clearly. But my
epistemological conundrum remains.

Imagine: What everybody calls and sees as "red," Walter sees as "green" but
calls it "red" because everybody else does. And what everybody calls and sees
"green" Walter sees and calls "red" because everybody else does. (Go figure,
Robert Brandom.) In this scenario, which is logically and empirically possible,
there does not seem to be a way of detecting this visual and linguistic
discrepancy. But it remains an actual possibility. Perhaps something like
Quine's "gavagai" example?

Hoping that Dan soon learns you your coulours, Walter

P.S. Re Palin/Obama: She's probably thinking she can get Obama to roll his eyes
upwards a sufficient number of times during the debate to win it. If it worked
for Al Gore vs George W, why not for her?


Quoting Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>:

> Sorry -- sent privately when I intended to send to the list.  That seems to
> be the thing to do today.
> 
> Julie Krueger
> 
> Odd.  Just today I had a conversational todo when I asked Dan if he liked
> the new blue sheets.  He asked where they were.  On the bed.  The gray
> sheets?, he says.  No, the blue sheets currently on the bed, says I.
> 
> I understand there are lots of nuances of colors, hues, shades, tones, and
> other such vagaries out there.  I should have said that I would be
> surprised if any child two years of age didn't know basic primary and
> secondary colors -- red, blue, yellow, green, orange, purple.
> 
> On a totally unrelated note, Palin has challenged Obama to a debate....  I
> don't even know what to DO with that thought.
> 
> Julie Krueger
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Walter C. Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx>wrote:
> 
> > My wife insists that what I call "pale blue" is actually "grey." And she's
> > quite
> > amazed at how consistently I make that mistake. I'm equally amazed by the
> > fact
> > that what she sees as "grey" is actually "pale blue." Now I ask you, who
> > here
> > really "knows" their colours and who is mistaken? And don't forget that in
> > Montreal, drivers understand that "yellow" is "green but be quick about
> > it."
> >
> > Walter O
> > MUN
> >
> >
> > Quoting Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> > > In my experience, children much, MUCH younger than 7 know their colors.
> > >  I'm surprised if children who are two don't.
> > >
> > > Julie Krueger
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Why not?
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   *From:* Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > *To:* lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2012 8:41 PM
> > > > *Subject:* [lit-ideas] Re: The Order of Aurality (ratification of
> > > > fiction?)
> > > >
> > > > Surely you didn't mean to say quite this?
> > > >
> > > > Julie Krueger
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think abstract reasoning kicks in about at about age seven or so.
> >  Does
> > > > a child that young even know colors?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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