[lit-ideas] Re: The Education of a Swain

Excellent, sensible, honorable, post by J.  Wager.

Indeed, that must have been a misquote. Some illiterate  wrote,

>anyway isn't issue centrered what every responsible student  does?

which does not make sense under _any_  circumstance.

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It's quite a miracle, teaching-learning,  etc.
Wager is right. One aimst at teaching the uneducated. But I never met  one!
----- Students are so sarcastic, full of irony, innuendo, they are
street-wise, etc.
----  Good students have to show respect for  instructors, but some of the
best ones never do!

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Oddly,  'philosophy of education' as per Peters (R. S. Peters) is something
I got to  _learn_ only recently. It's like 'philosophers' (indeed to be a
good  philosopher) it's never required to have taken _ANY_ teaching course.
The dogma  goes, 'it minimises the discipline'.

I did have teachers who were v. much  into teaching philosophy methodology.
Sometimes boringly so. I recall one tutor  who tried to teach me to teach
(philosophy). He would go to the detail of the  tutor having to _plan_ before
hand what he called 'esquema del pizarron' (board  schemes). This was a
very good policy (to know what you have to write on the  board beforehand --
say:
empiricism
justification
knowledge                                 rationalism

innatism
'origin'

nurturism

e.g. --

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Incidentally, do we _have_ to  educate a 'swain'.

Eng. Lit., it seems, is full with titles like "The  education of a ...". I
wrote 'swain' just because. But there may be wittier  titles out there.

With values, I don't think you can teach them,  period.

If I were to teach, today, Greek tragedy, I would be horrified.  With all
the violence out there, to have to give in a teaching the idea of an  Oreste,
who killed his mother, or a Medea who killed her children, or an Oedipus
who --- made love to his mama, etc. It's like it's so marginal, substandard,
dysfunctional behaviour, I'd rather teach  Tractatus.

Cheers,

JL

In a message dated 4/29/2009 1:19:21  P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rpaul@xxxxxxxx writes:
>>>  rpaul@xxxxxxxx writes: Anyway, isn't issue-centrered what  every
>>> responsible student does?

I didn't write this; it may  have been part of something I quoted from
someone else's message—I can't  remember. I'm not even sure what it means.

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