[lit-ideas] Re: The Big Mistake

In a message dated 6/26/2009 10:58:35 A.M.  Eastern Daylight Time, 
wokshevs@xxxxxx writes:
The students I was referring  to below are my Education students. The grad
students among them are assumed  to be both personally responsible and
professionally accountable for replying  to my comments. The undergrads,
however, are not yet "professionally"  involved in teaching since they are 
still
doing their pre-service BEd. They  remain personally responsible and
"professionally" accountable in a  projective sense of "professionally" 
that I
should have specified more  precisely given that we have amnongst us the 
likes
of JL. That projective  sense is akin to the projective sense in which we
attribute "autonomy" to  children and claim that teachers ought to respect 
their
rational autonomy.  
Trust this clears things up----  


---

Yes, it does.
 
"Projectively professionally accountable" sounds very good.
 
I guess the "Education" bit of the programme confused me.
 
I was thinking of degrees in "Philosophy".
 
Bachelor of Arts -- Philosophy.
Master of Arts -- Philosophy.
PhD -- Philosophy.
 
Education is indeed a service profession, like nursing, dentistry,  
medicine, etc. 
 
That's why I was wondering.
 
I suppose the responsibility of a serious student in philosophy is to  
_hear_ the professor, etc. But a lot of brain-washing that is expected from 
them 
 as they go through professor's notes should not be part of what they are  
projectively professionally accountable.
 
When Grice died, the obit read, and it made me laugh, "Professional  
philosopher and amateur cricketer".

Seriously, 'professional philosopher' makes no sense. 'professorial' is  
perhaps what is meant?
 
I would also distinguish between a theoretical degree in education from a  
degree one can get from a 'teacher TRAINING' college, where people are 
_trained_  as dogs are. Also a 'teaching certification' versus a real degree. 
It 
seems  'pro' applies only to situations where the individual is pro- 
employed, not  before. And then, only if she is not self-employed, of course, 
or 
the company is  private and she runs it. 
 
Talking of 'projective', I wonder if you'd agree with A. Coulter that the  
abortionist was not really killed but 'terminated on the 203rd'. I still 
haven't  done the mathematics of how she reached that number. I think 
'terminated' is a  good verb, and Coulter's implicature seems apt -- but the 
whole 
argument seems  slightly fallacious, though -- between 'legal' and 'moral', 
but that being  precisely Coulter's point, that the boundaries are 
_challengeable_?
 
JL Speranza
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