[lit-ideas] Re: Text of bin Laden Tape
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:22:27 -0500
Last question and I'm done. What do you think of the military saying this war
can't be won militarily?
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From: Lawrence Helm
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 1/21/2006 12:15:15 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Text of bin Laden Tape
No it isn't a non-sequitur. Yes, I have assumptions as everyone does who
speaks or argues and you can't divest me of my assumptions for the sake of your
hypothetical non-sequitur. I have been arguing based on my studies. I have
read all of Osama's speeches and he is sure he can get us to back out. We
don't have the stomach for warfare. We aren't "willing to die," he says. He
and the Islamists will win because they are willing to die. If the pressure of
the Islamists accompanied by a defeatist press can get us to withdraw
prematurely, Osama and Al Quaeda would without doubt declare a great victory.
No one fighting an enemy would advocate withdrawing and leaving the field of
battle to that enemy. You withdraw if he defeats you. You don?t withdraw if
you are winning. The History Channel has a series called something like ?Great
Military Blunders.? Such a withdrawal would qualify as a military blunder.
As to our troops being the cause of attacks by the Islamists, I haven?t seen
much discrimination. They attack the Iraqi government forces more than they do
ours, but even so and so what. The numbers aren?t large for a major war. In
fact the actual war has been one and we are now fighting the larger war against
international Islamism over there.
Who says I?m terrified about anything? If we were to be forced into a
premature withdrawal and the Islamists were to win then I think we would
deserve major casualties in subsequent Islamist attacks. The stupidity of a
premature military withdrawal would deserve military consequences. I have no
problem with that. We fight better after we?ve been bloodied.
Besides, you have things twisted. I think the war is being won, but I think a
premature withdrawal could turn that around. If we left early, the fledgling
Iraqi Army might not succeed in keeping the Islamist invading forces at bay.
Lawrence
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