[lit-ideas] Re: TUESDAY'S FORCAST

I am duly humbled. And vividly reminded of the maxim that philosophers, like
liberal democrats, should steer clear of theology.

I can go on and on about cars ...

Glad he's not a Hutterite,

Walter O.


Quoting Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> WO:
> > A thinking that itself creates in
> > the act of thinking knows all, sees all but tells nothing.
> 
> Yes, you are almost there.  "There" being where I was in 1968 when I was 
> called before the Curia in Rome to defend my preachings.  The Catholic 
> Church is very jealous of its doctrines.  Gruff and growly Benedictines 
> stand guard.  My thesis was (is still, though I've promised not to preach 
> it) that GOD cannot be thought about since to think of GOD is to place him 
> in a time frame.  Time and GOD do not work.  They are contradictory. 
> Eternal, omniscient, omnipotent.  Such expressions demean GOD.   They 
> suggest that there is reality other than GOD.  Even to say "GOD is" is a 
> blasphemy for it intimates that there's the possibility that GOD isn't.  But
> 
> let us be bold and speak in blasphemies.  Walter writes:  "A thinking [i.e.,
> 
> GOD] that itself creates in the act of thinking ...".  This is good Catholic
> 
> dogma such that existence is the mind of GOD.  Everything that is is 
> sustained through GOD's constant, diligent knowing of it.  Every leaf, every
> 
> blade of grass, every sub-atomic particle even.  So, please, don't distract 
> GOD with silly arguments against his existence, for who knows what might 
> disappear -- not even GOD knows.
> 
> I could go on, but I won't.
> Mike Geary
> Memphis
> 
> PS.  Loved the riff on cars.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Walter C. Okshevsky" <wokshevs@xxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "veronica caley" <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:16 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: TUESDAY'S FORCAST
> 
> 
> >
> > Quoting veronica caley <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> >> Mike:
> >> "God has his reasons, I know,
> >
> > Walter, reminded of a conversation with Father Herbert McCabe (*Love, law 
> > and
> > language*) over a lovely pasta dinner, with a chianti to kill for, at the
> > Orthodox church in Oxford, circa 2002, goes:
> >
> > Hmmm ... Does an omniscient and omnipotent "being" really have reasons?
> > Rendering this thought in transcendental locution: Is it *possible* for a
> > "being" answering to this description to have reasons? (That we mere 
> > mortals
> > often do attribute reasons and intentionality to god is not in question.)
> >
> > I would have thought that god had no need for inferences - that what she
> > "thought" would always already be the case in the moment of the thought. 
> > (And
> > of course she has great powers of control over her thoughts; that's part 
> > of
> > what omnipotence is all about after all.) Her intuition would thus have to
> 
> > be
> > of an intellectual form, not a sensible one. A thinking that itself 
> > creates in
> > the act of thinking knows all, sees all but tells nothing. If she would 
> > love
> > and tell, we'd all end up in heaven and the place would be as crowded as 
> > Nikki
> > Beach in mid-July. Life's a beach.
> >
> > No, I can't remember what position Herb maintained at that time. He was 
> > eager to
> > move the conversation to Witters' *On certainty* instead.
> >
> > Tempering his desire to extoll the virtues of his '71 Valiant and 
> > lamenting its
> > ultimate demise in '78,
> >
> > Walter O.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> I just wish that He would slow
> >> down his retribution against mankind
> >> for fucking up his grand design."
> >>
> >> Veronica
> >>
> >> "What grand design?"
> >>
> >> My comment was in reference to the above lines in Mike's poem.  Nothing 
> >> to do
> >> with car designs.  God's design is how I took it.  Clarification from 
> >> Mike
> >> please.
> >>
> >> Veronica
> >>
> >>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>   From: Andy
> >>   To: lit-ideas
> >>   Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:37 PM
> >>   Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: TUESDAY'S FORCAST
> >>
> >>
> >>         The Grand Design was made by Chevrolet.  It was replaced by the 
> >> Mini
> >> Mouse subcompact, which runs on bird seed.  They're running a contest for
> 
> >> a
> >> marketing jingle.  I was thinking, See the U.S.A. in your Mini Mouse
> >> subcompact.  Well, yeah, it is kind of small.  See Rhode Island in your 
> >> Mini
> >> Mouse subcompact.
> >>
> >>         Andy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         --- On Tue, 7/28/09, veronica caley <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>           From: veronica caley <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>           Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: TUESDAY'S FORCAST
> >>           To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>           Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 8:56 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>           I like the poem.  It made me laugh.  I hope you get more heat 
> >> so
> >> you can get more work.
> >>
> >>           What grand design?
> >>
> >>           Veronica
> >>             ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>             From: Mike Geary
> >>             To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>             Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:42 PM
> >>             Subject: [lit-ideas] TUESDAY'S FORCAST
> >>
> >>
> >>             WEATHERING THE WEATHER
> >>
> >>             It's uncomfortably cool in Memphis,
> >>             Life has almost stopped.
> >>             The sun's turned suddenly gentle
> >>             and service call have dropped,
> >>             business is down
> >>             way down,
> >>             way, way down.
> >>             No AC's are breaking under strain.
> >>             Can you feel my pain?
> >>
> >>             Our bodies struggle to maintain
> >>             ninety-eight point six degrees
> >>             when it's only eighty-five outside.
> >>             God has his reasons, I know,
> >>             I just wish that He would slow
> >>             down his retribution against mankind
> >>             for fucking up his grand design.
> >>
> >>             Mike Geary
> >>             Memphis
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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