[lit-ideas] Re: TUESDAY'S FORCAST

Quoting veronica caley <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

> Mike:
> "God has his reasons, I know,

Walter, reminded of a conversation with Father Herbert McCabe (*Love, law and
language*) over a lovely pasta dinner, with a chianti to kill for, at the
Orthodox church in Oxford, circa 2002, goes: 

Hmmm ... Does an omniscient and omnipotent "being" really have reasons?
Rendering this thought in transcendental locution: Is it *possible* for a
"being" answering to this description to have reasons? (That we mere mortals
often do attribute reasons and intentionality to god is not in question.) 

I would have thought that god had no need for inferences - that what she
"thought" would always already be the case in the moment of the thought. (And
of course she has great powers of control over her thoughts; that's part of
what omnipotence is all about after all.) Her intuition would thus have to be
of an intellectual form, not a sensible one. A thinking that itself creates in
the act of thinking knows all, sees all but tells nothing. If she would love
and tell, we'd all end up in heaven and the place would be as crowded as Nikki
Beach in mid-July. Life's a beach.

No, I can't remember what position Herb maintained at that time. He was eager to
move the conversation to Witters' *On certainty* instead. 

Tempering his desire to extoll the virtues of his '71 Valiant and lamenting its
ultimate demise in '78,

Walter O.









> I just wish that He would slow
> down his retribution against mankind
> for fucking up his grand design."
> 
> Veronica
> 
> "What grand design?"
> 
> My comment was in reference to the above lines in Mike's poem.  Nothing to do
> with car designs.  God's design is how I took it.  Clarification from Mike
> please.
> 
> Veronica
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Andy 
>   To: lit-ideas 
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:37 PM
>   Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: TUESDAY'S FORCAST
> 
> 
>         The Grand Design was made by Chevrolet.  It was replaced by the Mini
> Mouse subcompact, which runs on bird seed.  They're running a contest for a
> marketing jingle.  I was thinking, See the U.S.A. in your Mini Mouse
> subcompact.  Well, yeah, it is kind of small.  See Rhode Island in your Mini
> Mouse subcompact.  
> 
>         Andy
> 
> 
> 
>         --- On Tue, 7/28/09, veronica caley <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
>           From: veronica caley <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>           Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: TUESDAY'S FORCAST
>           To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>           Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 8:56 PM
> 
> 
>           I like the poem.  It made me laugh.  I hope you get more heat so
> you can get more work.
> 
>           What grand design?
> 
>           Veronica
>             ----- Original Message ----- 
>             From: Mike Geary 
>             To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>             Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:42 PM
>             Subject: [lit-ideas] TUESDAY'S FORCAST
> 
> 
>             WEATHERING THE WEATHER
> 
>             It's uncomfortably cool in Memphis,
>             Life has almost stopped.
>             The sun's turned suddenly gentle
>             and service call have dropped, 
>             business is down
>             way down,
>             way, way down.
>             No AC's are breaking under strain.
>             Can you feel my pain?
> 
>             Our bodies struggle to maintain
>             ninety-eight point six degrees
>             when it's only eighty-five outside.
>             God has his reasons, I know,
>             I just wish that He would slow
>             down his retribution against mankind
>             for fucking up his grand design.
> 
>             Mike Geary
>             Memphis
>        
> 
> 

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