[lit-ideas] Re: T'AINT FUNNY, MCGEE

From: JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 00:45:06 EST
I understand and agree with much of your idea of good parenting.  Not  all, 
but much.
 
Of course, there are people who might have a different set of  descriptors.
 
Julie Krueger

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It's not that complicated.  Two  parents of opposite sexes (kids need a mom 
*and* a dad) who get along with each  other, who get their needs met by each 
other, who don't ask the kid to be  confidant or friend or hero or mommy's 
little brain surgeon or any other  thing.  Who give him/her space and 
acceptance.  
Things along  those lines.  When a kid is treated with respect, he learns 
respect for  others because we give what we have.  Giving respect to others is 
called  morality.  Sitting down and teaching morality doesn't work.  Modeling  
is 
the most powerful way to teach by far.  Sitting down and teaching,  unless 
it's facts in a classroom, is called brainwashing.  It's crazy  making.  The 
very fact that people can't agree on what parenting is shows  the extent to 
which 
humans are clueless.  Needing to protect children from  being tortured or 
from witnessing torture or witnessing violence sh ows is as  basic as air yet 
in 
much of the world, including the U.S., it's not  available.  When parents yell 
and scream, it traumatizes the kid.   Etc. etc.  Can mankind be as bad as all 
that?  No, mankind is  wonderful.  We're the most civilized country in the 
world and we fought to  have slavery, and 200 years later we started a 
pointless 
war.  No, mankind  is wonderful.  
 


 

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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: T'AINT FUNNY,  MCGEE


Okay.  Let's say that the world could implement good parenting  universally.  
Who is given to choose what "good parenting" looks  like?  I'm suspecting 
there might, just conceivably, be a few differences  of opinion out there on 
the 
subject....  What if part of humankind's  obsession with religion is a search 
for some sort of objective valuation that  acts as a moral compass to 
determine for a given culture what societal issues  like "good parenting" look 
like?  
A way of reaching out for something w/  a higher authority than each Mom and 
Dad warring for "my way is the REAL good  parenting"?  Many husbands and wives 
can't even come to an  agreement.   Most communities agree that children 
should not be  soldiers, children should not be tortured (of course, even our 
state 
govt has  trouble figuring out what constitutes torture), children should not 
be  threatened with death....   In the absence of religion, where is an  
generally decided on moral value to come from?  The inherent human  instinct?  
Or 
conversely, if the human instinct is so driven to seek a  morality, can 
humankind be as bad as you see it?
 
Julie Krueger
wandering around the edges of old  ground
[lit-ideas] Re: T'AINT FUNNY, MCGEE

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