Eric: I brought up Clinton to show that the predatory nature of domestic US politics is bipartisan. (Clinton was probably right to order the missile strikes.) But predatory politics leaves people with lousy options, such as being: * cynical and disbelieving of everything anyone in power says, * blindly trusting and likely to be burned by that trust sooner or later, though often sooner, * selectively cynical along partisan lines. Omar: Well, if this is not ridiculous I don't know what is. Clinton ordered a missile strike against a pharmacy plant in Sudan that turned out to be just that. I don't know if there were any Republicans criticizing the action at the time, but if there were they were right for once. For Eric, this is a sad example of "bypartisan cynicism." I wish that I had more time and energy for this discussion, but it's a bit difficult to take seriously people whose philosophical position is that any actions of any US government should be supported as long as they are violent and directed against some Muslim country. O.K. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html