on 9/14/04 8:19 AM, Renee Morel at rmorel@xxxxxxxx wrote: > Why should this be a reference to an actual statue? It probably only > alludes to the personification of Patience in Cesare Ripa's _Iconologia_, > the ultimate Renaissance reference book for allegories, used by both > painters and writers. > > Renee > Thanks to JLS for the OED ref. Let me rephrase the question: if an audience was expected to understand what "Patience on a monument" looked like, people must have had some image of Patience in their heads. It doesn't seem sufficient to me to suggest that there was a reference book for allegories. The common herd, the folk who stood in the pit, had to know. The reason the question snagged in my mind is that the subject--Patience--seems so Victorian, or so Italian. I'm guessing that Patience meant, for a Shakespearean audience, some kind of Pieta figure, but I'm now really wondering whether I have understood. An anti-Catholic, anti-plaster saint reference perhaps? A reminder of the context: Duke: What's her history? Viola: A blank, my lord. She never told her love, But let concealment, like a worm i' the bud, Feed on her damask cheek: she pined in thought, And with a green and yellow melancholy She sat like patience on a monument, Smiling at grief. David Ritchie Portland, Oregon ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html