[lit-ideas] Re: States' Rights, Islamism, and the Cordoban Mosque

  • From: "Veronica Caley" <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 14:40:38 -0400

The idea of privatizing prisons and armies is appalling to me.  These seem to 
me to be patently governmental functions.  

I agree.  And what else can come of it but abuse?  After all you have to "sell" 
the product, which is imprisonment.  Empty prison cells, like empty hospital 
beds, are a loss of profit.  Which is why anyone with Medicare is pushed into 
hospitalization, whether it is needed or not.

Veronica
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Geary 
  To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 11:46 AM
  Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: States' Rights, Islamism, and the Cordoban Mosque


  The idea of privatizing prisons and armies is appalling to me.  These seem to 
me to be patently governmental functions.  

  Mike Geary  






  On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Veronica Caley <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    It seems to me that there is an issue that Lawrence brings up that is worth 
thinking about.  Namely, why let people vote and then over rule their vote? 
There are good reasons to do this, the Prop. 8 in California being one.  But I 
wonder if it wouldn't be better to subject propositions to the court review 
before it is allowed on the ballot.  I am sure the two major religions, which 
spent millions to promote this bit of cruelty, would have liked to have saved 
their money.

    Re marriage as it has been for the previous 2,500 years, it has included 
sex slaves, concubinage, plural marriage, polygamy, mistresses galore, 
infidelity, etc.  Currently, what passes for monogamy is in many cases serial 
marriage.  

    I don't know if Lawrence or anyone on the list knows yet that several 
prisons in Arizona have been turned over to private businesses and in the works 
is to turn them all over.  Now then, clearly residents for prison cells are 
needed.  Illigal immigrants would fit the bill perfectly.   And the federal 
government would pay for their keep.  If you think this is far fetched, it 
actually happened but with juveniles.  The judge sentencing kids to the 
facility was paid a million bucks to do this.  

    Rachel Maddow exposed this in program on Aug. 12, '10.  No Lawrence she is 
not a lefty as you would think of one.  She actually finds and analyzes news as 
no national news program here does.  Although sometimes she gets a bit carried 
away.

    Pennsylvania rocked by 'jailing kids for cash' scandal - CNN.com

    For information re immigration law in Arizona and private prisons:

    Rachel Maddow - Private Prisons (1) Love AZ Law -  

    Veronica Caley
    Milford, MI


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Lawrence Helm 
      To: Lit-Ideas 
      Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 8:05 PM
      Subject: [lit-ideas] States' Rights, Islamism, and the Cordoban Mosque


      Note posted at 
http://www.lawrencehelm.com/2010/08/states-rights-islamism-and-cordoban.html



      Lawrence

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