[lit-ideas] Re: Some years ago ...

Perhaps the clues to my quizzes (note the plural) re 22 December in music history were too misleading.

The concert in Vienna and the recording session (in New York City, as a matter of fact) are unrelated (at least in anything but the most tenuous of senses). Where I write 'some' years, most would no doubt write 'many' (in both places where I use the term).

With regards to the second quiz: David Ritchie's response uses one significant word (twice). Some may quibble about my use of the word 'iconic'. I had some misgivings myself, but they are alleviated by Simon Ward's response. The group I have in mind is as 'iconic' in their 'genre' as the Beatles are in theirs, as is their name.

Chris Bruce,
who spent most of his life thinking *nothing* significant
had happened in history on December 22nd until
he came across accounts of these two incidents, in
Kiel, Germany


On 22-Dec-08, at 11:17 PM, cblists@xxxxxxxx wrote:

On a December 22nd some years ago, Viennese devotees of new music made their way to a concert hall in Vienna for the most significant concert of the year. It was four hours of music, new music to their ears. The theatre was unheated, the orchestra was under-rehearsed, and the soprano soloist had a bad case of stage-fright. The whole experience led one listener to comment later that 'one can have too much of a good thing - and still more of a loud'.

The 'some' years are, to be precise, how many? And what made this concert so significant?

Some years later, on another December 22nd, four musicians gathered in a recording studio to make the first recordings of a group whose name accurately reflects the type of music for which they were to become world famous. (They had played and recorded together before; but, as stated, these are the first recordings to be released under that iconic name.) Can any of you state which year that was, and who the musicians were - or at least what the name of the group was?

On 23-Dec-08, at 12:09 AM, David Ritchie wrote:


You've caused me to discover that the Kronos Quartet's first concert was in a Seattle Community College and that there's a group called the New Vienna String Quartet. "Iconic name" is irritating my fritzing little grey cells. I bet if I were to send this off, the answer would occur to me immediately.

On 23-Dec-08, at 12:20 AM, Simon Ward wrote:

There's too many clues for the iconic group not to be The Beatles. Except that a 22nd December date doesn't fit at all. After EMI (Goerge Martin) signed the group, he sacked Pete Best in August '62, replacing him with Ringo Starr. Unless they were kept out of the studio until 22nd December that year ... in short, it can't be The Beatles.

So we need another iconic group whose name fits their chosen genre.
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