[lit-ideas] Re: Social Darwinism or Darwinian Socialism?

  • From: JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 04:35:16 EST

 
<<In my case, if I didn't  have the money to pay for my expensive asthma 
medications, I would simply  die. There would be no help for me. Social 
Darwinism says that's okay. Poor  asthma patients who can't afford $106 for 
Serevent in Missiissippi and $150  for Pulmicort wouldn't be able to sustain 
themselves on a daily basis. It  would be quick and painful.>> 
My youngest daughter was born with  ASD -- atrial septal syndrome, otherwise 
known as a "hole in the heart".   When the patronizing cardiac surgeon w/ a 
god complex wanted to rip her open  from neck to pelvis, I refused and did 
much, 
much research.  I found a  pediatric cardiologist, from India, who was 2 
hours away at a childrens'  hospital.  This was ...... 9 years ago.  He had 
created a device (now  probably commonly used) which was threaded up the artery 
through a very small  hole in her groin, and which would seal the place that 
was 
not naturally  closed.  Medicaid paid for it, as I have lived all my life  
hand-to-mouth.  She also had left pulmenary arterial stenosis -- a  narrowing 
of 
an artery which pumps blood from heart to lungs.  Implanted  stent.  All her 
life she will need check-ups, ultrasounds, CAT scans,  X-rays, and at some 
point 
when there is plaque build-up around the stent, it  will have to be 
replaiced.  Roughly a $50,000 procedure.  Medicaid has  discontinued its 
coverage for 
her because the ASD was "fixed".  I have  argued by paper and phone with 
hundreds of govt. people.  They don't get  the "continuing care or 
life-endangerment" thing.  She, also, is in need of  monthly asthma meds -- to 
the tune of 
about $300 a month.  Obtaining  insurance such as Blue Cross/Blue Shield is 
impossible.  Because of her  health issues she is litteraly un-insurable.   
Yes, the weak will die off, leaving  more room for the fittest. 
Julie Krueger 



========Original  Message========     Subj: [lit-ideas] Re: Social Darwinism 
or Darwinian Socialism?  Date: 12/29/05 7:47:47 AM Central Standard Time  
From: _writeforu2@xxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:writeforu2@xxxxxxxxxxx)   To: 
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Hi John -

The trouble is "social darwinism"  as a piece of ideology is a perversion of 
the idea of "survival of the  fittest." It assumes that the fittest -- those 
who make the most money --  should dominate. And those who don't -- the poor, 
the unfit -- who simply  can't compete should be weeded out. Any attempt to 
provide welfare for them  is misguided for they'd just transmit their 
unfitness to their children and  weaken the human stock.

When Hale Barbour, Governor of Mississippi, cuts  Mississippi's share of 
Medicaid so that hundreds of thousands of poor and  disabled Mississippians 
are shoved off healthcare, so they're not assisted  with their medication or 
their doctor's bills, their dialysis, their medical  support eliminated, he 
feels there's some science behind what he's  doing.

In my case, if I didn't have the money to pay for my expensive  asthma 
medications, I would simply die. There would be no help for me.  Social 
Darwinism says that's okay. Poor asthma patients who can't afford  $106 for 
Serevent in Missiissippi and $150 for Pulmicort wouldn't be able to  sustain 
themselves on a daily basis. It would be quick and  painful.

"Fitness" is not demonstrated by "growth" in this carnation but  by 
self-sufficiency. Banks with federal money are giving to well-to-do  Katrina 
victims, not to poor, though the poor have been even more devastated  by that 
hurricane than anyone else. The House and Senate have just passed a  budget 
that's made gigantic cuts in Medicaid and veterans healthcare.  Republicans 
consider that acceptable. Democrats see that as morally  repugnant. They 
tried to stop it but couldn't.

"Survival of the  fittest" in America is alive and well.

Stan Spiegel
Portland,  ME

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John McCreery"  <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent:  Thursday, December 29, 2005 3:57 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Social Darwinism  or Darwinian Socialism?


Hi, Stan,

No sugar-coating intended.  Unless, of course, you believe that nations
invading other nations in search  of lebensraum is just nature's way.
On the contrary, the point is to realize  how thoroughly the idea of
"survival of the fittest" and its complement, that  fitness is
demonstrated by growth, permeates contemporary  culture.

John  Mc
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