[lit-ideas] Re: Scrushy and the King of Arkansas
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:26:53 -0500
> [Original Message]
> From: Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 12/1/2005 8:15:24 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Scrushy and the King of Arkansas
>
>
> DR:
> > I tried this anecdote on one of my classes. They didn't find it funny
> > either. On my end, I'm trying to imagine why it's not funny.
>
> Maybe because they were afraid there was some classical, literary or
> historical allusion that eluded them. Whenever anyone more educated in
the
> arts and humanities says anything that remotely sounds as though it might
be
> an allusion that I don't know, I'm feel intimidated.
>
A.A. Or they don't know who Clinton is.
> As for Andy's reaction, it sounds as though he suffers from the illusion
> that Bill Clinton needs to be defended from a collusion of conservatives
on
> this list. I've never noticed that he does, but then, I'm probably THE
> lister most hostile to Clinton for his conservatism, so maybe I wouldn't
> notice. Whatever.
>
A.A. Clinton survived a lot worse than what this list could produce. He
doesn't need me to defend him. You have to define conservative. He was
fiscally conservative, socially liberal. Not perfect, but he served the
country well.
Andy Amago
> Mike Geary
> Memphis
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "david ritchie" <ritchierd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:57 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Scrushy and the King of Arkansas
>
>
> >
> > On Dec 1, 2005, at 1:36 PM, Andy Amago wrote:
> >>>
> >
> >
> >>> He has high praise for the porter
> >>> at the Oxford college he attended, a fellow of the sort I never meet
> >>> hereabouts, a man prone to reminding all around him, like a Greek
> >>> chorus, of the dangers of hubris. Returning to the college after he
> >>> was first elected governor, and feeling proud of his achievements,
> >>> Clinton was greeted by the fellow, "Ah Clinton," the man said, "I
> >>> hear you've just been made king of some place with three men and a
> >>> dog."
> >>>
> >>
> >> I like to think this loses something in the retelling. Three men and
a
> >> dog. One is tempted to think Rove, Cheney and Rumsfeld with a dog
named
> >> Iraq and Bush being crowned, or beaned, as the case may be. Dash it
> >> all.
> >> We'll just have to wait for Bush's memoir to find out.
> >>
> >> Andy Amago
> >>
> >
> > I tried this anecdote on one of my classes. They didn't find it funny
> > either. On my end, I'm trying to imagine why it's not funny. People
who
> > can turn an amusing, gentle insult are a throwback to what?
Eighteenth
> > century wit? Pope and Moliere and so on. Very alien to a culture
that
> > believes in affirmation, self esteem, taking offense.
> >
> > David Ritchie
> > Portland, Oregon
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