[lit-ideas] Re: Schadenfreude
- From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:22:39 EST
In a message dated 2/25/2009 2:50:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
"Phil Enns"
_donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx)
writes:
> Is that falsifiable?
It depends.
> cfr. the very similar:
>
> "When we say that one is as wise as a wisp,
> does that imply the wisp is wise?"
> 1655 H. MORE Second Lash 218
It's not very similar and it does "imply" in natural speech but not in
strict logic (cf. "You is as wise as Dubya").
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I like your 'it depends'.
We are considering McEvoy's statement:
"Geary is back. He never went away".
Is that verifiable? Is that falsifiable?
"Depends".
PROTOCOL. Observational term: "Geary"
Observational term': The list
"Geary is back" -- OBSERVATIONAL + OBSERVATIONAL.
"Geary never left" -- OBSERVATIONAL.
So please give me a scenario where you do falsify "Geary is back -- he was
never out".
I agree with the analysis of 'You is as wise as Dubya'.
Henry More, Second Lash, 1655, p. 218:
> When we say that one is as wise as a wisp,
> does that imply the wisp is wise?
McEvoy:
> it does "imply" in natural speech
>but not in strict logic (cf. "You is as wise as Dubya").
---- some differences though that H. More may have had in mind:
wisp is inanimate, so 'wise as a wisp' is more of a 'categorial mistake' --
alla Ryle.
'wise' is a round, not flat notion. So some would say Dubya showed sign of
wisdom by, say, 'taking the helicopter' and leave the House, rather than, say
_walk_ to Texas. So you is as wise as Dubya may implicate, 'and to the same
degree, which is yet not _really_ null'. Whereas literally, a wisp cannot be
wise _at all_ (unless it has a will of course).
Now, I allow that metaphorically, "Geary is back. He is like you -- [with a
complimentary tone] -- but he never went away".
JL
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