[lit-ideas] Re: Prince Maurice's Parrot
- From: wokshevs@xxxxxx
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:37:54 -0330
Quoting Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx:
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> Grice's idea, ultimately Cartesian, is that there are TWO and only TWO
> faculties of the mind, the will and the intellect, as W. Oksh. also pointed
> out.
Yet again JL insists on knowing my own mind better than I. I have never made any
claim even remotely resembling the one he attributes to me above. Actually,
JL's attribution is ambiguous; it is not clear which of two possible claims I
am supposed to have pointed out. Let me thus say that neither possible claim
withstands the test of careful reading and basic respect for others' views and
ideas.
Lest I appear ungracious, I appreciate some of JL's contributions here. But I
really dislike being told what it is I believe when I don't. And it's not just
the philosopher in me ...
Walter Okshevsky
MUN
>
> In "From the banal to the bizarre" Grice attempts to REDUCE 'judging' to
> "willing" -- and he succeeds. He notes, however, that a similar reduction of
>
> 'willing' to judging would be possible.
>
> Personally, being a classicist, I use 'Greek' terms for these two abilities
>
> (dunameis) of the mind, as Galen calls them -- in LCC --.
>
> I use
>
> 'doxa' (or 'doxastic') for the cognitive side (after Gk. 'belief' as
> opposed to 'knowledge')
>
> and I use
>
> 'boulomaic' (from Gk. 'boule', will) for the volitive side.
>
> -- In a dual scheme like that -- which can be reduced to a monist scheme --
>
> there does not seem to be a place for a distinction between 'judging' and
> 'thinking'.
>
> But then it's back to Prince Maurice's Parrot -- discussed by Locke and
> Geary ("I guess the parrot is saying, "If I parrot, he will feed me").
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> JL
>
>
>
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