Maybe I should offer something specific: what are the chances statistically if you are black in America of a) being killed by a white lynch-mob b) being killed by another black person or group of blacks? Choose any year you like. Argue that b) only happens because of a) etc. But waken up and smell the coffee. Donal ___________________________________________________________ Switch an email account to Yahoo! Mail, you could win FIFA World Cup tickets. http://uk.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html