[lit-ideas] Re: Pinch Michael Moore's Millions
- From: "Judith Evans" <judith.evans001@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:53:15 -0000
But again if you want to pick up
the lens of racism, what about Eskimos ... I mean Inuits? They're at the
very bottom of the poverty scale here. Nobody takes up that group's banner
and boldly carries it forth.
(You mean Inuit? You don't want to talk about the Yupiks and Aleuts?)
but then they shouldn't -- according to you -- should they? (take up the
banner, that is)
after all, that would be to talk about *race*, wouldn't it? and according to
you, that's not supposed to happen.
Yet this all tribal talk, and I still think the insistence on tribal talk
does more to keep ghettos in place than would dealing with poverty
regardless of race.
First I agree it's true -- trivially, I add -- that 'tribal talk' keeps
ghettos in place. (See the link I posted.) But
'tribal talk', as I have tried to argue/show, is also an artefact of white
power, of the power of the group whose identity politics is invisible. The
history of the black civil rights movement i n the US is one of a belief in
integration, an attempt at breaking down ghettos; replaced for some while,
for some, by an embrace of 'ghettos' in the face of the refusal of white
people to integrate. (Cf Chicago Open Housing Act, subversion thereof.)
(And then black power and black nationalism -- you may have lacked the
opportunity I had, and took, to hear Malcolm X speak.) It's true also that
in 'ghettoising' many black people in the US have simply followed earlier
groups who made their way in US society by 'hyphenating', made their way as
a group... -- it makes sense.
But please don't go on about the race card. It's ugly.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Yost" <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 4:30 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Pinch Michael Moore's Millions
Judy: the only sense I can make of your last clauses is this: more black
people than white people are poor.
Yes, and more Latinos. But again if you want to pick up the lens of
racism, what about Eskimos ... I mean Inuits? They're at the very bottom
of the poverty scale here. Nobody takes up that group's banner and boldly
carries it forth.
Yet this all tribal talk, and I still think the insistence on tribal talk
does more to keep ghettos in place than would dealing with poverty
regardless of race.
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