[lit-ideas] Re: Physics and Philosophy
- From: wokshevs@xxxxxx
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ursula@xxxxxxxxxx" <ursula@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:40:20 -0330
Some Faculties of Education are not totally innocent here: they allow an
undergrad to receive a BEd and be certified as a teacher without having
completed any courses in ethics, epistemology, moral reasoning, citizenship
education or critical thinking. The better Faculties, such as my own, offer a
variety of required and elective courses in philosophy in education. Students
that miss such an opportunity at other places often go on to become
administrators in their school who understand neither physics nor philosophy.
Walter Okshevsky
Director,
Department of Academic Freedom
Catholic University of the Americas
Washington, DC
Quoting "Ursula@xxxxxxxxxx" <ursula@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> Eric is right. Most teachers couldn't do this fairly or evenly...or
> even. Maybe two generations down the road of your system...but I
> wouldn't hold my breath. Good teachers don't grow on trees. I
> know. I went to teacher's college. I have this ongoing conversation
> with my mother. She (80 yrs old) insists that they just don't teach
> ethics or morals in the schools anymore -- never mind courtesy. I
> tell her they do, but children see through that. They look at the
> world and figure out pretty quickly what's going on -- how things are
> really done. Teachers have to live what they teach or they are just
> mouthing the words. Most of them are happy just mouthing the words.
> Kohlberg's morality scale places most teachers at 4 out of 6. He was
> probably being generous.
>
> And, Eric, I like your concerto idea.
>
> Ursula,
> slouching towards five on Kohlberg's scale
>
> ----Original Message----
> From: mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx
> Date: Feb 8, 2007 13:21
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subj: [lit-ideas] Re: Physics and Philosophy
>
> Mike: There would be no grades, just evaluations from teachers whose
> main job would be to know the students and structure their individual
> lessons according to their needs.
>
>
> Eric: That's a lot to expect from teachers.
> .......
>
> Ideal learning, in my simplistic view, would foster a *concerto*
> culture* where the instrumentalists support and harmonize with the
> soloists. I won't wait for it. Society overwhelmingly favors those
> who
> study for the test.
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