Thanks for the article. I'm reminded of something I read in Dana Priest's The Mission. After some congressional hearing, some undersecretary advised Zinni to be more nuanced. "Nuanced?" he replied. "I'm a Marine." You can tell Peters isn't worried about what any boss or editor might think of what he writes. I'm not very far into his book and I spilled coffee on it while reading your article; so I've got to let it dry. :-( Yeah, a lot of people seem to be worried that Europe will remain pacific while it is being taken over by Islam, e.g., Oriana Fallaci and Bat Yeor. There are many "official" decisions made by European leaders that imply Europe is soft on Islam, but the common people are not going along with these decisions. This was Bawer's experience in Holland, for example. Also, I may have mentioned Claire Berlinkski's bizarre and somewhat poetic descriptions of reactive undercurrents in France and Germany. She used Jose Bove as a symbol for France and the rock group Rammstein as a symbol for Germany. Both Bove & Rammstein are epitomes of violence. At the time she wrote Menace in Europe she hadn't seen this violence against Muslims, but her chapters on France and Germany hint that it is in the offing. Peters wrote his book earlier than Berlinski wrote hers. Perhaps they were looking in different places. Lawrence _____ From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judith Evans Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 4:25 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Peters on Integration Peters>Today, Western Europe is the new Deep South, i.e. Peters>And just watch (France's, Germany's) brutal treatment of their Islamic residents. (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19373) I thought "Europe" was supposed to be soft on Islam? Judy Evans, Cardiff