[lit-ideas] Re: Persuasion Redux and Merry Christmas

Eric continues to believe I understand and appreciate more about music than I
have let on. I can only repeat my insistence that I am verily innocent of such
understanding and appreciation. So the provision of further "examples," as with
the continuation of the use of a vocabulary I view as being overly metaphoric,
and mostly unintelligible, will not disabuse me of my ignorance. I love
listening to certain kinds of music; I love to sing; but I find no congnitive
content in it whatsoever. Shall we move over to the chessboard and some
Talisker?

Walter O.
Pythagoras Chair of String Theory and Quantum Mechanics






Spasiba. I vam tozhe.

Quoting Eric Yost <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>:

>  >>I remain a crass emotivist: what is good is what makes me feel
> good. Hence, the intelligibility and cogency of the metaphoric 
> applications of logical concepts to that realm escape me.
> 
> 
> Take F-minor. Listen to Beethoven's Appassionata Sonata 23 played by 
> Glenn Gould, Artur Rubinstein, Walter Gieseking, the Vladimirs Pletnev, 
> Horowitz, and Ashkenazy, Josef Hofmann, and Lazar Berman. Also listen to 
> Sviatoslav Richter's RCA recording of the same piece from 1960.
> 
> One will persuade you to prefer it above the rest. Its persuasion will 
> be convincing. The persuasion, that is the interpretation, will convince 
> you. The method of the persuasion is not mere rhetorical sophistry, not 
> a rallying cry, but an appeal to "universal and necessary
> principles and concepts individuating" that sonata.
> 
> Maybe you won't be persuaded by Richter. Maybe someone I haven't named 
> will convince you, maybe Alfred Brendel or Eileen Joyce. Yet the 
> interpretation that persuades you will offer the most convincing 
> interpretation of the sonata for you. If, after this experiment, you 
> listen to other versions of the piece, you will find yourself comparing 
> it, almost involuntarily, to the version you are convinced is best.
> 
> The results can be verified empirically, but only by you, and hence 
> cannot necessarily be replicated. It is a form of knowledge outside of 
> empiricism or axioms. It resides in the subject, and depends, inter 
> alia, upon what you value in sound, and how you understand the score.
> 
> Nevertheless, it is a form of knowledge, musical semantics, where 
> persuasion is convincing.
> 
> Vesyeloye Rozhdestvo,
> Muzilkalnaya Vanta
> 
> 
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