[lit-ideas] Re: <POLITICS> Jim Webb on the Financial Bailout
- From: "Simon Ward" <sedward@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:31:55 +0100
The solutions there in the 700 billion.
Its a matter of restoring the missing portions of the balance sheets. My gripe
with Webb is that he assumes there's a market for these duff securities when
its actually the fact that there isn't a market that makes them duff. If any
value statements can be found its in the nominal value of the mortgages and
other debt that those securities represent.
The only way to restore value to those securities is to establish some
confidence in the end products. In other words, use the 700 billion to
subsidise the houselholders at the end of the chain. Perhaps buy to let
programmes.
If there's no ability to pay back the debt at the end of the chain, then the
securities, as they were formulated, are, and remain, worthless. In which case
the only other way round it is to turn them into other bits of paper, call them
'govt stock', and provide some type of income stream to the value or otherwise
of the initial mortgage deal. If you go down this route then you'll be closing
the door on any mortage holders that remain.
Past that, governments might well be obliged to declare that they no longer
have confidence in the market as it applies to financial transactions (giving
or receiving loan deals and any securities created to back them up). We might
well see a 'National Mortgage' available for houseowners who don't quite meet
the regulated requirements for private mortages and perhaps following on, an
increase in govt-owned houses for let.
The possibilities are huge, are not for the faint hearted and are definitely
outside the remit of 'liberal democracy'. In other words, Capital has messed up
and is walking around in deep do do of its own making.
Simon
----- Original Message -----
From: John McCreery
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:09 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: <POLITICS> Jim Webb on the Financial Bailout
And your solution?
John
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Simon Ward <sedward@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Webb's insistence on purchasing securities at or below market cost is
unrealistic. The finance institutions are in this mess simply because there's
no effective market for the duff securities that they created; there's no value
in them. As such, the govt-backed bail out company will be creating a false
market by creating values with little or no precedent because there's no
'market' value.
As for capping executive pay, what would that do for tax revenues. That
besides, Bush would veto it at a shot.
Webb hasn't got a grasp.
Simon Ward
----- Original Message -----
From: John McCreery
To: ANTHRO-L ; Lit-Ideas
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 2:31 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] <POLITICS> Jim Webb on the Financial Bailout
Read it. Then start hammering your Senators and Representatives to get
behind it.
http://webb.senate.gov/pdf/banksdodd.pdf
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John McCreery
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