I deny that: hence the force referred to by Gertz. Shortly after the formation of the U.N. an edict was issued against nuclear proliferation. Those in the U.N. at the time wanted to keep the nuclear club small. Three of the nations on the Security Council at the present time, France, Russia, and China, have recently engaged in nuclear proliferation. The U.N. has no means for revoking a Security Council Member's membership for violating U.N. principles; so if we want to stop a rogue state from going nuclear, e.g., Iran, then it is futile to take this issue to the U.N. However, we can enforce the intent of the nuclear proliferation edict with such a force as Gertz describes. There is no over-riding cosmic principle here, though Mike seeks one and others may wish there were. We don't trust rogue nations and terrorist organizations to use WMDs against us. It is prudent to prevent that if we can. We can. Seeking Mutually Assured Destruction as a preferable alternative is, well, mad. Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John McCreery Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 5:24 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Ought we to do something about Iran? Hallelujah! Mike Geary! Morally speaking, who can deny the justice of the statement of a young Iranian interviewed a view months back on BBC who said, "If others are allowed to have nuclear weapons, why not us?" Cynically speaking, who can deny that the most effective strategy for preventing the use of nuclear weapons is MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction), as demonstrated by the Cold War? John McCreery The Word Works, Ltd. 55-13-202 Miyagaya, Nishi-ku Yokohama 220-0006, JAPAN ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html