Lawrence Helm wrote: "Would wars that kept us on a path that led to world peace be supportable? If not, why not?" I don't think that there can be such a thing as 'world peace'. I have two separate kinds of reasons for this belief. As I said, my pacifism is theological in nature, so I have a theological objections to the idea that we can attain something called 'world peace' through wars. I don't think this is the forum for laying out these objections. I also have philosophical objections. Whatever 'world peace' is, it is an ideal that must include, at some point, an account of the good. However, politics is not the place for settling the good but rather the means for accommodating incommensurable accounts of the good. Politics aims, then, to provide the conditions for a freedom that allows people to pursue the good. The use of violence is antithetical to this freedom since it aims to restrict the conditions under which people are free to pursue the good. One cannot create more freedom by restricting the conditions under which people are free. When freedom is excessively constrained, war may bring about more freedom, but war cannot be a path to the free pursuit of the good. There are no examples for philosophical arguments, but it might be helpful to think of the claims given before the invasion of Iraq. Some of the planners envisioned dancing and flowers as they liberated Iraq from Saddam. However, this use of violence was unable to create conditions for peace because it could not create the conditions under which the multiple and incommensurable accounts of the good found in Iraq were able to accommodate each other. Those conditions can only be created through political activity, and war is antithetical to this activity. So while removing Saddam allowed for more freedom, war did not bring peace to Iraq and it cannot create peace in Iraq. When politics takes the place of violence, then peace is possible in Iraq. Finally, I find the term 'world peace' vacuous. What would the world look like for everyone to agree that there is peace? Sincerely, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html