I read somewhere that American men tend to have the most violent dreams of any people in the world. It's a mystery why. That study was before Iraq, so I don't know if the violence that Iraq has unleashed changed anything as to our standing in that department. I definitely agree that the gun industry is just another industry wanting increased market share. They're no different than the medical industry, the food industry, the tobacco industry (which moved to the developing world), the automobile industry, the cosmetics industry or any other industry. Like the progenitor of Sears said, without that sale, there is no business. I saw the first installment of the series on al Qaeda. What an object lesson in the ineffectiveness of prisons. Not just ineffective but counterproductive. All it does is harden people in their positions. Talking, of course, about Zawahiri when he was imprisoned and tortured in Egypt. He came out more determined than ever. A lot of that installment was a recap of what we've talked about on this list: Al Qaeda loves war and looks for it, and we gave OBL a gift beyond his wildest dreams by invading Iraq. Al Qaeda bled the SU through their war in Afghanistan and now he's bleeding us in Iraq. Saddam had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 (also the subject of the Bill Moyers program). Al Qaeda is just a brand name for an ideology, inspiring all the home grown terrorists of the world. The 1967 preemptive strike by Israel was a decided long term loss (okay, we never talked about that). We need peace and we need it desperately if we're going to defeat al Qaeda, because peace to al Qaeda is like garlic to a vampire. It's exactly what would shrivel them up. For some reason we just don't get it. I heard that in about 4 or 5 years Standard & Poors will reduce the rating of the U.S. Treasury Bonds to the same status as those of Greece or Estonia. The reason: we're nearly insolvent. Our bonds are backed by the full faith of the U.S. government, and the U.S. government is racking up debts to the tune of $95,000 a second. Our debt is so high that if we sold all the assets of the U.S., all our factories, all our cars, all our dishwashers and our cats and dogs, we'd still be something like 80 trillion dollars in debt. We are really teetering on the edge. The irony is that when Clinton left office we had the biggest surplus since the 1920's. Times they do change. Andreas Ramos <andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Americans are violent and the gunmakers take advantage of that to sell more guns and make money. This isn't only a problem for the USA. Guns gotta be sold. US gunmakers are flooding the market around the world with handguns. yrs, andreas www.andreas.com --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.