LH:
Not at all. Mike said that if you created draconian gun laws peace would inevitably follow.
Assuming that the laws are not full of loopholes (which current gun control laws are), and that they are uniform across the country (which our gun control laws definitely are not) and that they are vigorously enforced, which is a laugh at this time. Laws, of course, really only exist in the enforcement.
But even with all that, I never mentioned peace. Less likelihood of being blown away by a road rage wacko, yes. Less likely to kill your own kid who's sneaking into the house at 3:00 am, yes. Less likelihood of blowing away a Halloween trick-or-treater, yes. Less likely that one of your kids will find your gun and accidentally kill a sibling or friend, yes. Less likelihood of you shooting your wife or she you, yes. Less likelihood your wife will set her purse down on a counter in a store and her pistol goes off and kills a by-stander, yes. And on and on and on and on. Oh, the anecdotes I could anecdote you with.
Mike Geary----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:23 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Nigerian gun control as an example for us
You pin a lot on Nigeria: Logical Fallacy of Hasty Generalization?)
Nigeria created draconian gun laws and peace did not
follow. Lawrence -----Original Message-----From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Judith Evans Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:45 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Nigerian gun control as an example for usI did read it. It wasn't to the point of our discussion ongun-control.Nigeria had and has very stringent gun control laws. Thearticle doesn'tcounter that. My argument was that gun control doesn't work.the article gives reasons why gun control doesn't work in Nigeria. (You pin a lot on Nigeria: Logical Fallacy of Hasty Generalization?)Guns will always be available from some place. Make themillegal and you'llhave an illegal gun trade.Murders will always happen, but we have laws against them.----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 7:32 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Nigerian gun control as an example for usI did read it. It wasn't to the point of our discussion ongun-control.Nigeria had and has very stringent gun control laws. Thearticle doesn'tcounter that. My argument was that gun control doesn't work.Make all thelaws you want and guns aren't going to go away. Some of mynotes discussedhow easy it was to get or even make a gun. Mike thought hisDraconian$50,000 fine for gun possession would do the trick. I usedNigeria as an------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html
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