[lit-ideas] Re: Muslim Prejudice
- From: Judith Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:41:25 +0000 (GMT)
> Prejudice is NOT by definition "a form of unjustified and
> false belief."
I was quoting Donal. You say, Eric,
> Prejudice is NOT by definition "a form of unjustified and
> false belief." It is rather a blanket judgment about a group
> or class of people or things that has developed as a result
> of the experiences of the prejudiced person
I have never seen a definition of prejudice -- pre-judgment -- that did not in
some way accord with Donal's suggestion, rather than yours. Can you link to a
dictionary definition that matches yours?
> >> criticism of Muslim hospital staff who refuse, on
> religious grounds, to obey hygiene rules?
>
> A friend of mine has direct experience of that in NYC.
as I said, the report here was incorrect. It may not have been a deliberate
direct lie -- I think the paper that's known to make up stories about Muslims
wasn't involved in this instance -- however, the report was incorrect, the
incident/s did not occur.
I add that had it occurred it would have involved an unwillingness to comply
with, at most, a refusal to follow, the "bare arms below the elbow" rules.
--- On Tue, 25/1/11, Eri c Yost <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Eric Yost <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Muslim Prejudice
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, 25 January, 2011, 19:21
>
>
> On 1/25/2011 8:01 AM, Judith Evans wrote:
> >> The semantic problem is that if prejudice is by
> definition
> >> > a form of unjustified and false belief
> then how can it be
> >> > "earned", where this suggests it can be
> justified,
> >> > presumably because of its
> 'truth-likeness'?
>
>
> Prejudice is NOT by definition "a form of unjustified and
> false belief." It is rather a blanket judgment about a group
> or class of people or things that has developed as a result
> of the experiences of the prejudiced person. What is false
> about prejudice is the assumption that a prejudiced judgment
> applies to ALL cases rather than to most, some, a few, or
> many cases.
>
> After all, a prejudice against eating at cheap restaurants
> may be justified in the case of food poisoning. A prejudice
> about friend X's taste in music may be surprised or
> justified by accepting that invite to a concert.
>
> >> criticism of Muslim hospital staff who refuse, on
> religious grounds, to obey hygiene rules?
>
> A friend of mine has direct experience of that in NYC. The
> hospital administrator solved the problem by demanding good
> hygiene or threatening to terminate the staff in question.
> When a wounded gang member or sick homeless woman complains
> about the stench of their doctor, something is wrong. The
> staff in question began to bathe more frequently because, in
> the final analysis, they preferred to remain in the USA as
> apostates than be shipped back to Deli or Karachi as the
> faithful.
>
>
> >>the Hindu community has said there have been no
> Hindu honour killings in the UK in many years
>
> Well good for them. Here in the US, some Hindus still
> perform marriages arranged by parents for financial or
> astrological reasons or both. Said individuals sometimes
> look askance at the Western practice of divorce, while
> unaware that their marriage rituals closely resemble
> ritualized prostitution.
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