[lit-ideas] Re: Movie

For Paul, tsar is closer to the pronunciation.  It's ts like the ts in tsk
tsk, with a soft rolled r at the end.


Interesting. I've always wondered how to pronounce "tsk tsk." You seem to say it's /ts, ts/. Almost all the dictionaries I've consulted say the pronunciation is /tisk tisk/. I've never ever heard anyone say "tisk tisk" in disapproval or in any other circumstance. Nor have I ever heard /ts ts/. I have often heard people make a sound of disapproval by quickly withdrawing their tongue from their upper gum ridge which produces a sucking liquidy sound -- almost a /th/ sound in reverse. Are there people who really say "tisk tisk"? Or is that just the orthographic convention for the reverse th?

Mike Geary






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I heard him interviewed.  He's basically says nothing with power point
razzle dazzle.  Better than bad news all the time I guess.

As far as self mastery, I never said self mastery.  That's antithetical to
everything I believe in.  I believe in expressing emotions but doing it
such that no one gets hurt (certainly not to include war or variations on
war) and far from the madding crowd.  The point is training the emotions
through appropriate expression, not mastery.  Self mastery sounds to me
like turning one's self into a pressure cooker.  Good luck.

For Julie, yeah, we do live in a three dimensional world but we have two
dimensional brains.  The tension between those states results in war,
persecution, etc.

Russia never had a king, only tsars. 
Tsar (alternatively czar, csar, tzar) is derivative of Caesar.

Eric, check this out.  Everything's hunky dory in Iraq, except the Shiite
militias are fighting the Iraqi troops, otherwise known as the government.
Think that sounds like civil war?  Nah, I didn't think so.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5293278.stm





[Original Message]
From: Eric Yost <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 8/28/2006 1:38:50 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Movie

Irene: We replay on this list what happened; reality is
reported to you, you get mad not at the reality or the
perpetrator of the reality, but at the messenger.


Obviously I don't believe you are reporting reality, but a
sort of alarmist fiction that admits no correction. You may
think I am also fabulating just as stubbornly. However, you
  seem to linger on past policy mistakes, rather than look
forward to new developments, in support of your view that
the sky is falling.

Try reading _The Pentagon's New Map_ by Thomas P.M. Barnett,
for a less alarmist take on events. He's pro-globalism and
uses an information paradigm, probably has other limitations
I'm not aware of, but his is a refreshing perspective. You
can buy his book here:


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0399151753/104-6947401-6419119?v=glance&n=2
83155


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