I guess you mean extremism as in seeing the Palestinian point of view (they were thrown out of their homeland), the Israeli point of view (they were persecuted for centuries, etc.), the Iranian point of view (they made friendly overtures to the Americans), the fact that Iraq was an artificial state, that extremism? That all humans are driven by repressed emotions and unconscious motivations? Maybe that's what you mean by extremism? I'm hard on the Americans, but given that I'm an American, I think that gives me the right, in fact the obligation, to criticize my country when it does wrong in the hope that it will do better. Maybe you need to define extremism. While you're at it, tell me what Absolute I subscribe to. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 8/28/2006 9:52:20 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Movie If you don't (want to) or can't see the religious, political, and personal extremism being expressed on this list in the last month no amount of quotations will help. I have more important things to deal with right now, but maybe at some point I will pull up Lit-id's archive and make you a nice long list of extremist remarks and quotations. Do you not understand that everything is not black and white? That there are nuances in everything? That not everything is as it looks or is reported or seems? That things people say are misunderstood? That people speak one thing and the listener hears another? That stuff -- theology, ideology, political stances, beliefs, are relative? There is an Absolute out there, I grant you, but I sure has hell don't have a corner on it. And I'm suspecting you don't either. It makes most people feel better, though, if they believe they do. Julie Krueger Anxiously awaiting the movie "Babel". -----Original Message----- From: aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 8:33 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Movie What extremism? Tell me specifically, with quotes, what you're referring to, specifics that can be refuted, or your comments are meaningless. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 8/28/2006 12:44:21 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Movie I will, tomorrow, better. I'm not feeling well. But extremism that does not take nuances into consideration is ineffective if not false. Hats? Grey. Multi-coloured. I don't care. Just try to see that people everywhere are people and we are not alone bound by our cultural and religious and political fences. -----Original Message----- From: aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 8:15 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Movie What hat do you recommend one wear when one makes oblique little pot shots, such as your message below? What don't you just say what's on your mind? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 8/27/2006 8:31:16 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Movie I'm starting to believe this list needs to form a "White Hat/Black Hat anonymous group. Is non-extresmist thinking a reqruirement for this list now?? Nuance is good. Julie Krueger -----Original Message----- From: aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 3:35 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Movie When someone presents someone with facts and resources for weeks on end, only to have that person refuse to even consider that there might be an issue beyond The Enemy Is Out to Get Goodness Embodied as Infidel, then yes, it is apropos of nothing. > [Original Message] > From: Eric Yost <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 8/27/2006 4:18:21 PM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Movie > > Apropos of nothing, Irene wrote: Talk to Eric, he'll tell > you about the do-no-wrong U.S. > > > Following the death of Chaucer in 1400, the Do-No-Wrong U.S. > was founded on the moon, under harsh conditions, by a group > of Carmelite nuns, who stuck together in warm weather. Since > its founding, the organization has been responsible for many > of the good things we enjoy today, including compact > umbrellas, roller skates, tequila, indoor plumbing, and > scrapple. Irene has been a member of this organization since > 1962, when she finally emerged from the head of Zeus. That > she asks me, a nonmember, to describe the organization, can > only be taken as an act of subterfuge and extremely clever > misrepresentation. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.