Joerg: I've come to hate you killers, and I've sworn to piss your legs whenever I can Eric: That's your real motive, isn't it? Unfortunately you've missed my legs and are merely pissing in the wind. Your "we Germans have no reason whatsoever to be grateful to the politics of the USA in the last century" is both comic -- in terms of your two world wars -- and consistent with what I said about making your culture the way it is. The comedy continues in your attempt to compare US actions to Hitler's. How about this, Joerg? In twenty years, with the added historical distance, we may find common ground. Unfortunately, by that time, we may also have grown too old and rigid to change our tunes ... though our present state doesn't bode well either. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html