What began as criticism of > Militant Islam ends up a criticism of Lawrence, Eric, and the USA. This > stands as but one example of what Judy says doesn't exist. I'll say it one more time. You said that when a list member criticised terrorism/terrorists, they were attacked. That is not true. I'll make your task easier. Produce just one example of a list member being attacked for opposing or criticising terrorism. Just one. That is what I said didn't exist. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:43 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot > Baloney, Andreas, but better written than most of your Baloney so a relative > pleasure to read. You begin with the assumption that what Joerg says is > true. Of course it isn't true. We don't have large scale atrocities > committed in our name. If there are atrocities of any size whatsover then > someone is brought to justice. Our enemy on the other hand commits large > scale atrocities and claims religious authority for them and receives > applause from the rest of Militant Islam. > > > > Assuming this false statement to be true you speak of the love Eric and I > have for massive murder. Which is another falsehood. It has a nice > literary ring to it, but it is nevertheless false. We have no such love. > Our interest is in defeating our enemy and defending our country. Eric is > angry and speaking "over-the-top" in his anger; but so what. After our > enemy is defeated we shall be perfectly happy to let him live in peace. All > he needs to do is let us live in peace. Of course there is that other > language problem, the one the enemy has when he says that he won't stop > until we are all dead. Eric, living near the Twin Towers ought to be given > a little slack for being unhappy with the Terrorists, but I'm not willing to > give our enemy any slack when he promises to destroy us because there are > elements representing his Militant Islamic point of view who are striving to > do just that. Only our resistance, including military resistance, is > preventing that from happening. So those interested in defense of one's > nation are castigated for it by those who don't want their little cocoons of > security disturbed by things like spiders, rats, Terrorists and their > exterminators. > > > > You say that Eric and I if we lived in Europe would feel societal pressure > to behave in a civilized manner for wanting to force the Militant Islamics > bent upon killing us to behave in a civilized manner. Who is the more > civilized, those who want to resist a group bent upon the destruction of > civilization or those resisting that destruction? Are the Terrorists and > their supporters more civilized, or are Eric and I for wanting to resist > their destructive behavior? > > > > And I note that you have ended up attacking America one more time. Note, > you hypothetically new members, what Andreas concludes with: "Lawrence and > Eric actually do represent the USA, both in foreign and domestic matters. > Everyone outside the USA can see how the Bush White House dealt with the > Arabs in Iraq and the Blacks in New Orleans." What began as criticism of > Militant Islam ends up a criticism of Lawrence, Eric, and the USA. This > stands as but one example of what Judy says doesn't exist. > > > > Lawrence > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html