[lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot

  • From: "Simon Ward" <sedward@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 17:15:37 -0000

You posted it pubicly? 

Hey Lawrence, you know I just didn't realise that given the indirect references 
to us 'dumb' leftists. And your right, insults were chucked at you that you 
just didn't deserve given the fact that you never even approach the insult 
stage when dealing with us 'insane' leftists. And I'm sure your correct and 
that all these deaths, all these bereaved families across the world, all the 
hundreds of thousands of lives that have been ended in the last few years, all 
the vaporisation that has gone on is a just response to the three thousand that 
died in New York. 

How dare these inferior types challenge the might of the West and if they do, 
what else can they expect than wholesale vaporisation; a hundred to one, a 
thousand to one, what is the appropriate ratio we wonder. And if for every dead 
terrorist another five rise in their place because of all this vaporisation, 
well so what; if they dare to stand, we'll just knock them down in even greater 
numbers. 

Death! Death! Death! 

Bring it on eh Lawrence, line them up and well shoot them down. Heck it's just 
a turkey shoot. The US have lost another three thousand while the Terrorists 
(notice the capitalisation) have lost maybe two hundred thousand, maybe three 
hundred thousand. Those are the kind of odds we like. (How did they ever fit so 
many in those caves).

That's just about approaching the worth of one American life. A life of 
freedom, a life without tyranny, without threat of violent crime, without 
persecution, without drugs, without guns, without prisons, a life of plenty, of 
fairness and equality. In fact a life so worthwhile that it should be exported. 
What an idea, why don't we just go out and remove all those inferior types and 
put in their place something more respectable, something with a degree of 
freedom; why don't we just go out and create some room...

Bet nobody's thought of that before.

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lawrence Helm 
  To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 3:35 PM
  Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot


  Simon,

   

  I posted that publicly.  What difference did it make to me since I've not 
gotten an intelligent response from a Leftist in eons - if ever.  Note how 
silly you are.  Note that I observed that Leftists quickly attack us for 
wanting to defend our country.  They attack us if we want to defeat our 
enemies.  Notice that I said they never enter into a serious logical discussion 
and when one of us proposes a serious discussion or advances a serious argument 
all the Leftists can manage in response is a series of insults.  I said you 
didn't seem to have the ability to reason or debate logically.  So what do you 
do to refute that?  You insult me -- once again proving my point - if it needed 
any more proving which it doesn't.

   

  Lawrence

   


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  From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Simon Ward
  Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 2:01 AM
  To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot

   

  No doubt Lawrence's private message to Eric was sent to the list by mistake. 

   

  We weren't supposed to see the deliberate misapplication of logic and the 
deliberate maligning of those on the list who criticised Eric's approach to 
fighting terrorism or likened Eric's language to that used by Neo Nazis. 
Somehow, though clearly we weren't meant to see it, we have all become 'the 
enemy' through a literary manouvre that is no doubt taught in the 'Schools of 
the Right' (disguised as regular viewing on FOX News) in which it is thought 
wise to try and ferment a civil war in addition to the many wars being fought 
on foreign soil. 

   

  I can almost smell the friction burns as Lawrence rubs his hands together.

   

  Simon

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Lawrence Helm 

    To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:01 AM

    Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot

     

    Eric:  

     

    Notice how quickly any expressions hostile to Militant Islam, Terrorism or 
any variation thereof are quickly turned back on the writer.  Condemn 
terrorists and someone is going to condemn you in short order.  You'll be a 
wild man, a fascist, just as bad as the terrorist or some combination thereof.  
The fact that Leftists can't resist doing that, can't resist attacking those 
interested in defending this country, is far more interesting (and potentially 
alarming - until we realize they are but a minority in the US - if not in 
Europe) than anything pertaining to the actual defense. A majority in this 
nation will insist that this country be defended, but we here on Lit-Ideas are 
a backwater in which hostile intelligences snap and bite at those who believe 
in fighting against our enemies.  How do you account for that?  I for one never 
get used to it.   What they say strikes me as being similar to someone who does 
something really dumb and then does it again and then again.  They draw 
attention to themselves.  You are shocked and then amazed.  You try to help 
them, but they don't want any help and they go off and do it again, and again, 
and again.  It is like a blind spot or insanity.  One of them wants to turn our 
founding fathers into a group of terrorists --  I suppose such a transformation 
is intended to make the present terrorists more palatable to those of us who 
oppose them.  What sort of intelligence would assert something so loony?  It is 
amazing.  She wasn't affected by the fact that the concept didn't exist until 
it was applied to the French during their revolution which occurred after ours. 
 Her head was up and locked and the throttles were fully forward.  I don't 
think she even noticed what I said.

     

    Now you have been called a Nazi, you who live near the World Trade Center 
and witnessed the work of the Terrorists are now considered a Nazi for wishing 
them ill.  Why do these Leftists so quickly attack those who oppose our 
enemies?  Why do they in effect come to the defense of our enemies?  Are we 
experiencing a pandemic of self-destructive behavior?  Might we become infected 
as well?  Might we one day wake up and hate America and wish to become a 
Terrorist's toady?  And what is most alarming, we have ample evidence that the 
disease is incurable.  

     

    But then the next question to ask is why we, who have yet to be infected, 
spend so much time inviting their dumb comments again, and again, and still 
again.  Perhaps this is a form of symbiosis.  If we could get them to go to an 
Alcoholics Anonymous for Leftists, perhaps we should seek out an Allanon.  

     

    Lawrence

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Yost
    Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 6:22 PM
    To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Max Boot

     

    Joerg: ... over here, someone with your "world-view" would 

    easily qualify as a neo-Nazi, and be banned from public 

    life: that's not a "clash of cultures", it's just drawing 

    the line between civilisation and barbarianism.

     

     

    Eric: I let this pass too easily, so redux.

     

    Let me get this straight: in modern Germany, if someone 

    advocated killing active terrorists, they would qualify as 

    neo-Nazis and be banned from public life? That can't be 

    right, can it? If that's what you really meant, it's almost 

    too weird and fascist for a reply ... almost.

     

    If that's the case, you Germans are totally [insert 

    Anglicism for traditional expletive] bonked. Might as well 

    just lubricate yourself and bend over for any and all 

    militant killer scum who threaten you. That's so sad. A 

    whimpering end. Being someone's jailhouse punk in the name 

    of civilization. Es ist wirklich traurig.

     

    If I misconstrued what you wrote, and it seems certain I 

    misconstrued, you should correct me. What, exactly, in your 

    opinion, qualifies as neo-Nazi about my world view? Or are 

    you the Hammer seeing me as a Nagel?

     

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