On Jan 28, 2010, at 3:37 AM, cblists@xxxxxxxx wrote:
On 28-Jan-10, at 5:23 AM, David Ritchie wrote:.. off Dogger Bank, where of course the original incident was.Not to be confused, I suppose with the Incident at Ipswich - May, 1953
Here's quite a good description of the Dogger Bank incident, more prosaic than the Bruce's poem, and missing the irony that the fleet which thought trawlers in the North Sea were Japanese torpedo boats had to sail all the way round to Port Arthur to then be sunk by...well usually the story is that Japanese torpedo boats did most of the damage, but the tale is actually, like many more in history, a deal more complicated:
See here under Russo-Japanese War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Russian_Navy and here is the climactic engagement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Yellow_SeaWhat's really odd, from an Argentinian point of view, is that no mention is made of the role played in either engagement of mast- climbing octopi.
Many thanks to Sr. Speranza for his detail and elaboration. Who knew?I did, by the way, say that she was reading *around* Juvenal. I think she was reading Alex Scobie on slums and sanitation, which can be downloaded from the web.
David Ritchie, not going fishing in the slums, Portland, Oregon ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html