[lit-ideas] Re: Language, Justice and Social Practices (long)
- From: wokshevs@xxxxxx
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- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:39:05 -0230
I'm having difficulty understanding Eric's post below. Eric, perhaps you can
unpack what you mean by "metonomy" here, and what a "pure potential pawn" could
possibly mean. The attack you describe was very popular in the early 1900s,
particularly the Hannover tournaments. It's very exciting to watch, (and to
play, of course) as white sacrifices all sorts of pieces in order to advance
the pawn to R6 and eventually to R7, with bishops at a distance protecting.
Those games were often very short: 20 moves sometimes. Black never knew what
was coming. But you'll have to fill in the blanks if the philosophical issues
we are discussing here are going to be clarified and resolved. Also explain
what "fianchettoed" means, so that its clear to the other interlocutors in the
discussion (and others). Also, what would it mean to understand a pawn as a
"shape location"? There is no specific location that identifies a piece as
being a pawn, except for the position a pawn takes at commencement of a game.
After that, all hell breaks loose, and they go wherever they want to, so to
speak. Sorry for my obtuseness here. Cheers, Walter
Walter Okshevsky
sacrifingdoesworkattimes.com
Quoting Eric Yost <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Walter wrote, concerning teaching an illiterate deaf person to play
> chess:
>
> However it is that she identifies
> the one set of inferential relations (concept) from the other and
> differentiates between them I would call a naming procedure.
>
>
> Eric: This has been the most difficult thing for me in the
> discussion, since I tend to think of "naming" as involving symbol
> and referent within a framing context.
>
> In the case of the illiterate deaf person playing chess, they would
> presumably see a pawn as a shape-location and generalize that this
> shape-location is a "type" of chess piece.
>
> About metonymy and framing context, I was thinking of a waiter
> working in a restaurant, who says to the chef, "The nonsmoking table
> is hungry." They are using metonymy (nonsmoking table) governed by
> framing context (restaurant with smoking and nonsmoking sections).
>
> Could it be that "pawn" is similar? Take a kingside attack against
> an opponent's castled position. So P-R6 (h5-h6) = a metonymy (pawn
> for all pawns in all positions, i.e., the pure potential pawn)
> governed by a framing context (e.g., the rook pawn advancing on the
> opponents fianchettoed kingside)?
>
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