WWII cost Britain their empire and their navy, the biggest navy in the history of the world. Do you still want to call it a victory? One might argue it's poetic justice for engaging in a useless war. Iraq did the same to us, cost us our empire. --- On Thu, 8/14/08, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: LAUGH OR CRY? To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 7:31 AM .... America, the Soviet Union, and Britain were the chief victors;