In a message dated 8/11/2010 1:13:34, jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxx writes to comment on McCreery's material on Jesus Christ-martyr: Surely there is some severe kind of psychological suffering going on at the time. ---- Well, perhaps the problem is in 'pathology'. We tend to assume it's a bad thing. But when Saul (or Paul, later St. Paul) spoke of the 'passio' of Christ, he meant 'pathos'. Mutatis mutandis, he was pathological. Speranza Bordighera