Lawrence, you read, but it's all the same thing. There's no thought involved at all. All you do is spook yourself that somebody's out to get us, we better arm ourselves to the teeth or we're not real men. Can you tell me in your own words what Fukuyama says? If not, then how do you know what he says? The way we know we understand something is if we can explain it to somebody. From what I've read of Fukuyama on this list, clever is the right word. His stuff is a bunch of clever crap. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 5/1/2006 11:03:42 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: It Doesn't Stay in Vegas Irene, It took me a while to figure out what you were talking about, inasmuch as I read the entire article and not merely the little example I posted. But having figured out what you are probably talking about I am nevertheless nonplussed. Did you read the whole article? I posted an example of Fukuyama?s clever thinking, and in this context, clever repartee. I suppose however that you on the left can?t do that, that is can?t appreciate clever thinking or speaking unless it is consistent with your partisan point of view. And then, I suppose, if you don?t recognize it you assume it to be coming from the opposite partisan point of view. Like I said to someone else recently, if I thought like that I wouldn?t read anything, or if I did, I wouldn?t read ?promiscuously,? as a lurker recently described my reading habits. Lawrence