Lawrence, If your (and Daniel Pipes') notion of a "moderate Muslim" is someone who actively denigrates Muslim faith, then I am not surprized that you are not finding a lot of them. O.K. By saying I suspected the progressive site was cooked up in Euorpe, I meant by Muslims in Europe. There are Muslims in Europe and America that sound Liberal or Moderate, but they don't dare behave like that in Muslim countries, and if they are too outrageous then a contract is put out on them as there was on Salmon Rushdie and on Hirsi Ali. I checked and I was wrong, they were cooked up in the U.S & U.K. But I was right in thinking they were not cooked up in a Muslim country. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html