[lit-ideas] Re: Is it any wonder...

  • From: "Simon Ward" <sedward@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 19:40:02 +0100

But which consipracy theory am I to believe Lawrence? Was it the CIA, Israel, 
the State Department or Bush himself. The point is, as Paul suggests, that if 
all the answers had been answered satisfactorally, if the Bush Administration 
had not sought to impede the investigative process, then there would have been 
much less of a furor. Sure there would have been conspiracy theories, but 
nothing to the extent that exists. Of course, you might blame it on the 
internet, you might blame it on free speech, or you might just blame it on 'the 
enemy'. 

What does make me laugh is that purely by virtue of raising the subject, I am 
automatically labelled an enemy. No doubt Goering would have had something to 
say about that.

Simon
PS I'm on the way out so I'll deal with your reply (assuming there is one) in a 
few hours.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lawrence Helm 
  To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 7:25 PM
  Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Is it any wonder...


  Well, there you go, Simon.  You have presented one of the more puerile 
Conspiracy theories being kicked around today, and indicated you believed it in 
the process.  You have to ignore a lot of history to do that particular theory, 
but Conspiracy theorists have never balked at that.  Most of us know, however, 
that the Islamists declared war upon the U.S. quite a long time before 9/11.  
It was just that we weren't paying attention.  We treated their war as criminal 
pin pricks.  The great blind Omar despite all his heroic warlike efforts was 
locked up as a common criminal. The effect of 9/11 was that it finally got our 
attention.  You have to ignore all those attacks prior to 9/11 to do your 
Conspiracy Theory and come out some place else.  You have to ignore the avowed 
intentions of the Islamists who declared war upon us long before 9/11.  All of 
that has to be dismissed.  You have to have a tabula rasa on 9/11 for your 
conspiracy theory, Simon.



  The implication of such conspiracy theories as these is that we who were 
attacked on 9/11 are to blame in some way.  The ways are different but the 
effect is the same: the Islamists are not to blame even if they are to blame.  
The fact that Osama bin Laden took credit for 9/11 is ignored.  It wasn't 
caused by his Islamists.  It was caused by 1) the CIA, 2) Israel, 3) the State 
Department, or 4) confused language that only makes sense if it was Bush 
himself.  Also, despite the fact that Osama and his crew are innocent; those 
who were killed on 9/11 had it coming.  Furthermore 9/11 wasn't anything very 
much at all and the evil Bush blew it all out of proportion by using it as an 
excuse to attack the innocent Taliban and that pillar of Islamic virtue, Saddam 
Hussein.  



  Your arguments are used by the enemy, Simon.  I just reread your note.  I 
think I smell another weird coincidence.





  Lawrence


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