But which consipracy theory am I to believe Lawrence? Was it the CIA, Israel, the State Department or Bush himself. The point is, as Paul suggests, that if all the answers had been answered satisfactorally, if the Bush Administration had not sought to impede the investigative process, then there would have been much less of a furor. Sure there would have been conspiracy theories, but nothing to the extent that exists. Of course, you might blame it on the internet, you might blame it on free speech, or you might just blame it on 'the enemy'. What does make me laugh is that purely by virtue of raising the subject, I am automatically labelled an enemy. No doubt Goering would have had something to say about that. Simon PS I'm on the way out so I'll deal with your reply (assuming there is one) in a few hours. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 7:25 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Is it any wonder... Well, there you go, Simon. You have presented one of the more puerile Conspiracy theories being kicked around today, and indicated you believed it in the process. You have to ignore a lot of history to do that particular theory, but Conspiracy theorists have never balked at that. Most of us know, however, that the Islamists declared war upon the U.S. quite a long time before 9/11. It was just that we weren't paying attention. We treated their war as criminal pin pricks. The great blind Omar despite all his heroic warlike efforts was locked up as a common criminal. The effect of 9/11 was that it finally got our attention. You have to ignore all those attacks prior to 9/11 to do your Conspiracy Theory and come out some place else. You have to ignore the avowed intentions of the Islamists who declared war upon us long before 9/11. All of that has to be dismissed. You have to have a tabula rasa on 9/11 for your conspiracy theory, Simon. The implication of such conspiracy theories as these is that we who were attacked on 9/11 are to blame in some way. The ways are different but the effect is the same: the Islamists are not to blame even if they are to blame. The fact that Osama bin Laden took credit for 9/11 is ignored. It wasn't caused by his Islamists. It was caused by 1) the CIA, 2) Israel, 3) the State Department, or 4) confused language that only makes sense if it was Bush himself. Also, despite the fact that Osama and his crew are innocent; those who were killed on 9/11 had it coming. Furthermore 9/11 wasn't anything very much at all and the evil Bush blew it all out of proportion by using it as an excuse to attack the innocent Taliban and that pillar of Islamic virtue, Saddam Hussein. Your arguments are used by the enemy, Simon. I just reread your note. I think I smell another weird coincidence. Lawrence