LH(quoting)>It's the same story in Britain, where in 1989 Muslims, for the most part LH>Pakistani immigrants, erupted with anger against Salman Rushdie LH> and shouted for his death, with nary a protest against such barbarity. Do you know how the British Muslim (not all British Muslims, fyi) outcry about the Satanic verses took off? Some Bradford Muslims went to a non-Muslim English lawyer to ask whether there was any legal action they could take re the book. He told them they'd get further if they burned the book publicly. The rest is history... but I will recap it here "On the 21st of October British Muslims handed over a petition with hundreds of thousands of signatures to Viking/Penguin calling for the withdrawal of the novel, the publishing company responded by stating that the offence has been due to a "misreading of the book", and that any moves to cease publication of the novel would be "wholly inconsistent with our position as a serious publisher who believes in freedom of expression" (Letter and press statement issued by Penguin reprinted in Ahsan and Kidwai, Sacrilege versus Civility, Appendix 1, pp.318-20). Two more events took place that have now come to characterise the Muslim position in the Rushdie Affair. The first of these was the symbolic burning of a copy of The Satanic Verses by Muslims protesters in Bradford on the 14th of January 1989. This event gave license to Western critics to portray Muslims as barbaric and uncultured, as Rana Kabbani observes in A Letter to Christendom, the event "matched the traditional Western image of them, making it easy to label them as primitive fanatics not civilised enough to appreciate the value of free speech" (Rana Kabbani, A Letter to Christendom, Virago, London: 1989, pp. 8-9). The image of the burning book has come to represent Islam's intolerance, and it is therefore significant that two major studies of the Affair, Appignanesi and Maitland's The Rushdie File, and Ruthvan Malise's A Satanic Affair: Salman Rushdie and the Wrath of Islam - the title is itself revealing - have front covers that show burning copies of The Satanic Verses. This event was followed by the fatwa of Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini on the 14th of February 1989, whereby Rushdie was sentenced to death." During those years I taught 2 British Muslim students on a course where Satanic Verses was discussed. One said he and his family were not offended by the book. The second said he thought it was offensive but that he totally opposed any action against Rushdie. (He was a bit edgy about saying he thought the book offensive... .) I honestly can't remember whether either was a "Pakistani immigrant" (Revel will know why Pakistanis might be particularly unfavourable to Rushdie, but he may just be being obnoxious). It is of course true that many British Muslims were deeply offended by SV and I take it many thought action should be taken against Rushdie. LH(quoting)>And after September 11, a qualified spokesman for British >Muslims, a certain al-Misri, called the attacks on the World Trade Center acts >of 'legitimate defense. Abu Hamza al-Masri, normally known as Abu Hamza. The "figurehead for radical Islam in Britain": "qualified spokesman for British Muslims" my arse. He preached at the Finsbury Park Mosque from 1997-2003, albeit in 2002 he'd been suspended by the Muslims who ran it. He's in gaol now. sorry, haven't the time for more fact-giving Judy Evans, Cardiff ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: Lit-Ideas Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 5:19 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] In Search of the Moderate European Muslim On pages 68-69 of Anti-Americanism, Jean-Francois Revel (a Frenchman writing from Paris) writes, "While the statistics are unreliable, it is thought that between four and five million Muslims are living in France. This is the largest such community in Europe, followed a long way behind by those in Germany and Britain. If the 'immense majority' of these Muslims are moderates, as the imams and muftis and their political and media parrots claim, it seems to me that this moderation should be rather more apparent. For example, after the bombings of 1986 and 1995 in Paris, which killed several dozen people and wounded many more, it should have been easy to find a few thousand 'moderates' out of 4.5 million Muslims, a good proportion of whom have French nationality - enough at least for a demonstration march from the Republique to the Bastille or along the Canebiere. There was never even a hint of one. "In Spain, there were several rallies of up to a hundred thousand people in 2001 to condemn the assassins of the Basque ETA terrorist organization. These took place throughout the country and even in the Basque Country, where protestors had reason to fear reprisals, although the terrorists' partisans were actually very much in the minority (which was made overwhelmingly evident by the regional elections of November 2000). "In contrast, if moderate Muslims in France dare to protest publicly so little, couldn't it be because they know that they, and not the extremists, are minorities within their communities? This explains why they are so moderate with their moderation. It's the same story in Britain, where in 1989 Muslims, for the most part Pakistani immigrants, erupted with anger against Salman Rushdie and shouted for his death, with nary a protest against such barbarity. And after September 11, a qualified spokesman for British Muslims, a certain al-Misri, called the attacks on the World Trade Center acts of 'legitimate defense.' Another spiritual authority, Omar Bakri Mohammed, launched a fatwa commanding the assassination of the president of Pakistan because the latter had sided with President Bush against bin Laden. However attentively you might have listened, you would never have heard the slightest whisper from moderate British Muslims protesting against the calls for murder. There were no such protests, just as there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim majority in France. The notion that the 'immense majority' of Muslims settled in Europe were peacefully inclined was, during the two months after September 11, starkly revealed for what it was: a mirage." Lawrence ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/326 - Release Date: 27/04/2006