[lit-ideas] Re: Hitler/Stalin

  • From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:18:49 -0500

DMcE:

my partner has just asked me to write (having been provoked by news of America's response to Obama's health care plans) that Americans come across as a bunch of "thick nutters".<<

Look, we didn't make those people sick. Why did they get sick if they couldn't afford to? Obama wants to suck the blood out of the Producer Class and transfuse it into the User Class and the Abuser Class. We Producer's have to do everything. Well, I'm sick and tired of paying for their irresponsibility and I'm no longer willing to pay to keep those low-lifes alive. If they choose to be poor and uneducated and unemployed and homeless and drug addicted, then that's their choice, let them live with it -- as long as they can . All you socialists with your cradle to grave excuses for failure drag down the human race. LET THEM DIE -- it's Darwin's way.

Yours in Christ,
Mike Geary
Memphis









----- Original Message ----- From: "Donal McEvoy" <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:29 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Hitler/Stalin


--- On Thu, 13/8/09, Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Not all children grow up to be monsters if they are
tortured, that's true, probably most don't, at least
not on a grand scale, but it's because we don't know
how the stars will line up that we need to prevent all
abuse.

Preventing _all_ abuse is all very well as a long-term goal, but in the meantime we should perhaps be alert to stop abused children of the Hitler, Stalin type ever getting into positions of power, where they can organise the murder and torture of others. Minimising violence may be said to be still the central problem of human civilisation.

It would seem to me that our US/UK culture is developing in two contradictory ways (as cultures often do): there is (overall) increased awareness of a child-centred approach to child-rearing compared to fifty or sixty years ago and comparatively less social tolerance of many punishments and other 'treatments' that used to be meted out; at the same time, many children are raised in a culture where development of their conscience is put at risk by the values of materialism, consumerism, cynicism and an excessive sense of entitlement - and their vulnerability is increased when their parents and peers subscribe to these values.

Btw, in case this seems reasonable, my partner has just asked me to write (having been provoked by news of America's response to Obama's health care plans) that Americans come across as a bunch of "thick nutters". And I have just said, "Funny you should say that, because most of them don't believe in Darwinian evolution either."

Donal






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